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Anyone who attended this should be allowed paid therapy from the Bills for the pain they had to see

I have a feeling many people will respond similar. Worst game I have ever seen was that New England SNF game in 2007 when we lost 52-13. The tailgate was fun, but it felt like a blink of an eye and the game was 35-7. Just never even felt close at any point. After that the 2010 season I saw the Bills get smoked by the Jets at home in the rain which was awful and the home finale against NE they lost 34-3 on a frigid like 10 degree day with snow. The lot we parked in literally consisted of are group and a few other groups while otherwise looking like the barren wastelands of Hoth haha. Probably the most boring game I have seen was the Bills Dolphins TNF game in 2014 it was 3-3 at halftime and neither team had any interest in scoring.

Packers Texans with GB winning. Probably best Packer team on paper in a while as long as everyone is healthy. Defense added some nice pieces and Graham in the middle is a nightmare. Texans are the most talented team in the AFC on paper assuming they still injury free to their main guys and Watson stays at the pace he was.

You'll be fine in Miami. About 1/3rd of the stadium is Bills fans and I've been there twice once at night once during the day. That tailgating scene isn't crazy but there is something neat about being outside with palmtrees tailgating. My interactions with their fans were great and if you bring up mutual hatrid of NE things get civil real quick anyway. The new roof they put on covers 90% of the stadium minus the vistor sideline, but the fans get covered by shade within the first 45 minutes so by early 2nd quarter we were fine. Just drink water incase. Food and drink prices weren't bad I thought. The stadium has good sight lines the first time we were up for the TNF game in 2014 in 315 40 yard line about 5-7 rows up. Great sightlines and the noise was good but at the time the roof wasn't on. The second time we sat section 107 about 23 rows up and the sight lines were good for the most part. Ironically we didn't see the Landry hit on A Williams because it was toward the other sideline but you can see pretty well anyway plus the video boards are nice. Safest place I thought overall it was pretty fair, but somehow Bills fans seem to congrate in the 100 level endzones areas pretty heavily from what I remember. You'll have a blast I just hope you have better luck win wise, both times I've been the Bills blew leads they shouldn't have. 2016 was especially bad considering we were up 10 pts in the 4th. So many of their fans are in the club areas. When we went to the 2014 night game the stadium was literally 60% full until Miami took the lead and then it was like mice coming out of the woodwork...which lasted until 5 minutes to go in the fourth and they all left again haha.

Deflategate effectively gave NE fans a true reason to think the NFL and other Owners have it out for them given that just about everything the NFL said was wrong.

Cowboy bias. Gil Brandt like many Cowboy people have some bias to GB given the Packers have had their way with Dallas. Staubach is appropriately placed but Aikman doesn't belong near this. He's a HOF but he isn't better then Rodgers or Dan Fouts who also is omitted.

Their start with Fitz in 2011 made it so hard not to believe in them and even going into 2012 I was pretty bullish on him myself. Ugh

Haha where to start: 2007- Went to the Patriots night game convinced we would upset them because of how well we played against Dallas and we were I believe 5-4 figured we would start a run. 2008- McKelvin pick thought he was gonna be an all pro 2009- Was not upset at the time that someone vandalized McKelvin's lawn because he blew the game. As an adult now obviously see it as wrong. 2010- Hated the CJ pick wanted a QB like Colt McCoy or someone else ...whoops 2011- Thought Fitz was the real did as did a lot of other people after the start they had 2012- Was convinced Dave W would unleash a furious defense and instead got a puppy 2013- I bought EJ Manuel as the guy hardcore from training camp right into the season. Bought his jersey week 4 before BAL game and thought he would tear up the 2014 season. Then the season started he looked shaky and then he was pick 6'd by Watt. Gave up on him that moment. He never looked the same after the Cleveland game when his knee got hit and the coaches never seem to let him run again either. 2014- After the Dolphins TNF disaster which I was at in person I wanted Art Brilles as head coach because the Bills offense was so pathetic and at the time Baylor was rolling up anyone..whoops 2015- Was in the lower 100s after the Colts game chanting we want Brady. Went the next week and no longer wanted Brady. Also gave up on Rex Ryan after the Jacksonville disaster. If the Bills in my eyes were a playoff team and he was a decent enough coach they would've beat a crappy Jacksonville team. They didn't and I took down all of my Bills outdoor house decorations the moment I got home, season was over for me at that point and I was just waiting then for Rex to be fired. 2017- Thought the team was 4-12 5-11 at best. Thought after the 3 game slide they would just continue like the other pretenders and McD would join a list of Bills coaches who couldn't hack it. Was thrilled to be as wrong as I was.

Frankly I'd relish this. I wish they wore their AFL blue throwbacks like they use to those are the best unis they have period IMO.

Can we just establish that the Colts game now is officially known as the "Hoth Game" as of today?

Right that is why I have them at 5 games and could easily see them win around 7

The numbers rebounded a bit after the 3 game sked but that also coincided with Milano returning to being a starter and a slightly easier stretch of games.

You also underrating that Taylor was a competent enough QB to drive the train correctly. Peterman and AJ are far bigger wildcards by comparison. And who does the offense have? An aging McCoy with Benjamin who has injury issues and Clay the same. After that you have a spaced out Zay who just had knee surgery and Kerley who may be OK. Thats it. Then a ton of unknowns which every football fan thinks is the next star when 99% of the time they might make it as a 4th stringer. And the offensive line is a huge question mark afters year of stability losing two pro bowl starters with Wood and Incognito. How is that not a nosedive, they just let two of their better receivers go with Deonte Thompson who may have been their best and Matthews who is better when healthy then everyone minus Benjamin.

Denver was 5-11 last year with a defense that was 3rd in total yards allowed, Chicago 5-11 was 10th, even Cleveland 0-16 was 14th. Jacksonville in 2016 was 6th overall in total yards and went 3-13. Just because you have a defense that rates well it does not guarantee wins if the offense can't put up points or stay on the field. The Bills offense at best has massive question marks and realistically is bottom 5 in the league as currently set. I could care less about what Daboll can do because at a certain point you need players to execute your scheme otherwise its just great idea's. If you want to doubt the defense that's fine but saying they should be in the top half near Top 10 like I have said for months now doesn't seem like a leap given their secondary and additions on the front 7.

How is this a Tank? The Bills currently have one of the worst WR corps, no true answer at QB, and O line questions that have no answer. They benefited like crazy off turnovers in one score games which easily could've went the other way and would've been 7-9 or worse. This is a rebuilding year by the very definition where hopefully the defense progresses into a Top 10 unit and if Allen starts he shows the promise you want to see long term. Could they surprise and be better? Of course. But statistically they should see a regression in turnover luck, they are playing a schedule that is tougher then last years by a lot, and the offense is a massive question mark which outside of McCoy should instill zero confidence in it producing more. I look at this season as the way the Vikings did in 2014 with their team. The talent was their on D and they took their time to break in their rookie which the Bills should do. It setup a superb 2015 year for them and more long term which is far more valuable.

My thing with the D especially in the first half is they can play well only allow 20-21 points but a turnover by the offense where it puts the D at our own 10 with 8 to go and they've been on the field for 35 minutes is not an appetizing situation. I actually think by the end of the season they will be close to dominant and setup for a nice run long term just will take time. And I can respect anyone who thinks the team will be better. I thought last year they were a 5 -6 win team and the schedule was rough and they proved me wrong and it was blast to follow as a fan. Just based off where we are right now I am not bullish.

I don't know why people bother with these studies and get upset. These studies always are looking at brand, marketability, $ drivers, etc.. Bills fans in the sports world are known in the elitist of the elite for passion and loyalty. It showed really well after they made the playoffs and people went to the airport. We will never be super high even if we win a super bowl because we arent Dallas or NYC for example.

lol adjusted thank you for noticing

I could see that although I am not nearly as high on the Titans as some and I believe Luck will be back like he was and even if the roster sucks he can elevate them pretty far.

Yea I have wavered between 5,6,7 wins at this point. Division wise I don't see us sweeping either MIA and NYJ for reasons you said. The Jets have really added to their defense and Miami should be better culture wise which should help. The SD/BAL/GB/MIN start is a killer and they have to find a way to be at least 1-3 if they think they can be a playoff team.

I like to go playoffpredictors.com and predict the season. It's fun for me to do to see what I change from week to week and the league itself has changes like Jameis Winstons suspension. Anyway here is my Bills prediction with one sentence describing each game: Week 1 at Baltimore: Loss 19-13. Defense plays like many think but the offense led by Peterman stalls at the end costing the team. Week 2 LA Chargers: Loss 24-21. Good game but the Chargers pull out the win late to send Buffalo to 0-2. Week 3 at Minnesota: Loss 31-13. Defense does it's best until the offense turns the ball over early in the 4th to make this a wash. Week 4 at Green Bay: Loss 27-17. Close game until the mid 4th quarter where a Peterman pick 6 puts the Packers up by 10 pts while the defense holds the Packers to just 20. Week 5 Tennessee: Win 24-14. Bills defense harasses Mariota all day while the offense does enough to get Buffalo's first win at and the team moves to 1-4. Week 6 at Houston: Loss 28-10. Houston throttles the Bills offense into many turnovers and the defense can only stop the bleeding at 28 pts. Week 7 at Indianapolis: Loss 20-13. If this game was in Buffalo the Bills win, but the Colts led by a rejuvenated Andrew Luck do enough to squeak by Buffalo. Week 8 New England: Loss 24-13. Buffalo actually has the lead going into the 2nd half 13-10 and the defense keeps the Patriots to 17-13 until a late 4th quarter drive turnover allows the Patriots to seal the game. Week 9 Chicago: Win 21-17. Buffalo's defense tortures Trubisky into multiple turnovers and the Bills offense manages enough points so the Bills can get their second win to move to 2-7. Week 10 New York Jets: Loss 17-9. The game is an absolute snoozefest between two good defenses and two awful offenses with the Jets having a little more luck scoring points. Bye Week- At the bye the Bills are 2-8 with a defense that is close to great and offense not doing nearly enough with Peterman playing pedestrian at best. McD decides to let Allen start after the bye against Jacksonville. Week 12 Jacksonville: Loss 23-21. Allen has a solid start against a very good Jags defense that isn't sure what to expect, but Allen can't lead the offense to a win on the final drive. Week 13 Miami: Loss 23-10. Allen gets his first real taste of reality in the NFL on the road against a rebounding Miami team that has its way with the Bills throughout Week 14 New York Jets: Win 23-20. Allen gets his first win in the battle between the rookies and throws for over 300 yards leaving Bills fans drooling over a glimpse to his possible future. Week 15 Detroit: Win 28-20. The offense now showing signs of life has their most complete game and the defense does its job in the best win of the season against a shaky Lions team. Week 16 New England: Loss 31-17. Bills stay in it until the 4th quarter where Allen turns the ball over and Brady seals the game. Week 17 Miami: Win 21-14. The Bills beat Miami in a cold season finale with the defense locking things down and Allen having a solid performance capping a decent rookie start for him. Overall 5-11 with Bills having a hard start but finishing winning 3 of 5 and Allen showing a lot of potential and getting praise/hype going into 2019 the way Garrapollo did.

I live in Rochester (grew up BLO family still there) and my wife and I will come in for events that are non game. We almost game in for a Steve Hauscka Jordan Poyer signing in January but a massive car wreck on the 90 in January stopped that. We also go to training camp regularly but yea if there was an event we'd be there or try at least.

100%. I had no problem with criticizing the team and questioning the decision making. As a fan I tended to agree with a lot of what was said, I remember especially after the 2016 Steeler game everyone just saying can Rex and Whaley and restart the disaster straight up. I thought during that the media actually did a good job to illustrate how out of control the Bills FO was. BUT yea they crossed far too many lines and even with new management they were ready to attack anything remotely wrong. There is fair and balanced reporting with criticism and then chasing the smallest fire the size of a cigarette. Sullivan I think his voice had become dry over the years and he was to opinionated in his own ways, but had he adjusted a bit could've been fire. Bucky Gleason though was a straight up jerk and I was thrilled to see him go. The last time he wrote anything remotely fair to the Sabres was tens years plus. And yea as a owner I would restrict access if we were constantly harnessed at every step for not taking the wisdom of two reporters from TBN.

If you read the piece while buyouts were an option all of them chose to leave. They were not forced out and in Sully/Gleason case neither like the direction things were going. That's a big difference. That said the BN Blitz is every much the disaster it seems and mgmt absolutely messed that up.

I am 30 I have no memory of a good MNF game. Just a list of worst losses tied by the Dallas debacle and McKelvin fumble.