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I would say it has shaken my faith because up until this game he was generally making enough smart plays to cover his bad and the growth was noticeable. Yesterday was his first real test of if he could be the guy at QB and he was a tire fire to the point I had to look objectively if he can cut these bad plays out for good. Not every team will be as good as NEs defense but 8-10 wins a year by picking on weak foes and collapsing your QB against real resistance. I look forward to seeing how he responds and if he can clean up his game.

He sucked if he made the catch in the end zone instead of dropping it the Bills probably win. Mix in the fumble last week and I’m already set to cut him.

Get ready for 3-2!!!

Drops, lack of effort, and overall just unimpressive waste of a guy. Im not sure why people forget that the Dolphins game in Miami he blew the catch at the five yard line. Yesterday he blows the catch in the end zone and on both INTs he didn’t even attempt to stop the defender. I was done with him last year I can’t stand him

Yes 24 TDs against 36 TOs is the stat line for success for my QB.

Jesus he had a bad day which opened some questions. It was referendum on his career today. Your right aikman manning weren’t HOFs day one yet Watson Mahomes and Jackson all seem to not be having as many issues. The kids got talent and seems like he has the potential to be the dude but he’s got to be smarter and do better. He didn’t a real test today which is OK but I want better and he better do better

Its not that he is inaccurate but at times his mechanics fall apart and his decision making combine gets him in trouble. The INT with Zay Jones is a perfect example where he threw off his back foot which caused it slightly underthrown. Had he set properly it’s a TD or incomplete If he played smarter we don’t need a comeback.

Sure 6 TDs total against 9 turnovers. I don’t want my QB committing 36 turnovers it’s not sustainable. He needs to do better I believe he can but today was a step back

Right step back happens you hope it’s just a step and he goes forward from here. I would like a stretch with less turnovers it’s getting concerning.

Right. He’s had two good games (Jets Giants) one average (Bengals) and one bad which was today which makes you ask some hard questions. This isn’t a panic button he has started just 16 games as much as a well I like what you’ve shown but I need better for it to work long term.

But he didn’t. Sorry I like Josh but for the season he is 3 TDs to 6 INTs plus 3 lost fumbles. After two games where the error was pointing up he has now had two games where the error went decidedly down. The defense will not be great forever and I want my QB to be better straight up

4 Turnovers plus a sack that took them out of FG range. He was a big part of the points NE got and the lack of scoring we had. For right now it’s OK but it forces some not fun questions about his play which is very up and down

The first few years are the best chance to load up and go for it when his contract is light . I really want Josh to be the guy but you can’t ignore how bad he was today and the fact his mistakes aren’t going down or away.

The Pats at home for the division lead and Allen played his worst game of the season and worst since he went out with injury last year. This was an opportunity for a statement and instead we got the worst parts of Allen’s game which was trying for big plays which resulted in INTs and pocket presence failure resulting in loss of points. This isn’t the end of the world either. Allen deserves credit for leading the team to 3 wins and you can certainly see his improvement as a QB. But after saying he was done with hero ball, he instead forced 3 different balls for INTs which were crucial to the loss. On the positive his second half play was better and you have to remember NE is really good so it wasn’t like it was against a bunch of scrubs. But this was his first real chance against a great team and he flopped big time. Up until today he was playing at a level that was very workable with no real signs to say his trajectory was down. But this was a bad day which opened some concerns about his long term viability. While I am not a big stat guy he has 3 TDs thrown against 6 INTs plus a bunch of fumbles too. The goal with drafting Allen was getting a guy who can do enough to beat the top dogs like NE and today at argument could’ve been made that the Bills were better off with Barkley just because he would’ve given less negative plays. The second half of the year will have more real opponents like BAL, NE, and DAL. The Bills defense is good enough to make a real run with and the offense has some good weapons like Beasley Brown and possibly Knox who is emerging a bit. Allen failed today but he has a good test to comeback next week and more opportunities to show he can move to that next level.

The moment we have number two I’m running to get fixed. No needs for that stress haha I always said if I was a star athlete I would get my ass fixed so no gold digger could try to trap me with a kid lol

Agreed. My wife and I had to do a fertility specialist after we couldn’t get pregnant. We were in that quadrant of they couldn’t say why we weren’t pregnant and thankfully her dr after a year of trying said to see them. The fertility specialist people were truly amazing and gave us a sense of comfort. We ended up miscarrying 6 months after being with them (which is the single worst thing I’ve ever experienced and seen my wife go through and wouldn’t wish in my worst enemy. But because of that they were able to get her levels in check and we conceived naturally 5 months later. Their faces when we told them were pure joy and they were excited as us that the things they did helped. We never had to go the Ivf route but we have close friends who will be after 4 years plus of trying. Like you said I can’t imagine how they feel because we are a good story for them they’ve have countless other who didn’t get that who they have to break the news to.

I have no clue looking back on my early 20s how we would get there at 7 sun or snow and drink and party until 12:45 and then go to the game. These days we are far tamer and just do 9-12:30 so we can get in for kickoff. Ive never had a problem with how people party but like you said I DO have a problem when people party past their limits and stuff like you said occurs. I won’t even consider bringing my son to a game until he is 10 because of this and I think fan behavior has gotten better compared to 5-7 years ago. The KC home opener in 2012 some drunkhead passed out behind my wife and his gum fell onto a little bit of her hair. Thank god we got it out with ease but it was an unnecessary rude thing to have been part of. I agree with this to an extent. Bills tailgating is an Alamo to the league of corporate controlled everything. People are stunned with how loose and natural our tailgating is compared to the cookie cutter BS that other teams force on their fans.

New Orleans followed by Seattle. Ever since the Saints won the SB their fans have become unsufferable and walk around with an arrogance that they have 6 SB rings and are God’s gift to earth as a fanbase. I think there media actively wanted/wants Brees to win another title and they effectively created the stupid new rule that exists when every other team subject to bad calls moved on. I think the fanbase is scum and I cannot wait until NOLA is an afterthought. Seattle fans are pretty much the same and they are straight up off putting elitist with their fandom. I use to hate Dallas but they have become kind of a joke these days because they haven’t won anything so I find them more comical then annoying. AFC wise I could write a dissertation on why Steeler fans are by far the worst in the NFL and guarantee Id at least have you considering them.

I was NOT team Allen I wanted Rosen if we couldn’t get Baker or Darnold. I was actually so mad they picked Allen I left the draft party I was at. I really didn’t think he would do much. The Minnesota game changed it all for me and I’ve been all for him since then. I am not sure if he will be an all time great but I absolutely think he is talented enough to bring a title to buffalo.

I’ve said overall I love what Daboll has been doing and the offense is lightyears ahead of last year’s disaster. Yards per game their up to 8th in the league which is kinda stunning. i just didn’t like that when they had success smashing the ball in the middle and when Allen has shown success at mid range passes and play action, the play of choice is a sweep which starts yards back. For basically three straight drives the Bills defense couldn’t read Cincy because of the play action. They seemed off footed a bit and it’s the first time all year a team has had consecutive times worth of success vs the defense which is a minor concern. I’m sure the defense themselves didn’t like the fact that Cincy has 3 straight drives were they put up 17 pts and 164 yards after holding them up until that point. Had Buffalo not gotten a TD and only a FG, Cincy has the game tied. They got beat a little and that’s ok no team is perfect.

Yep and they will lose to the Top 5 teams if they do. But for their worst game they still put up 21 and I have to believe they will be far sharper

I did this two weeks ago after the Jets game. Game day I can’t think rationally but next day after is a healthy reflection point. Here are my thoughts: 1. 3-0 is 3-0 regardless of how dirty or ugly. The goal with the first three games was 3-0 and they did it. They have a big test Sunday and the Titans are no joke but worst case scenario Buffalo is 3-2 opening up a three game home stand while 2-2 in conference. That still gives you a sizeable chance to make the dance. 2. This was the worst game they played all year as a team. Even element of the team had its issue. On offense fumbles and Allen’s ball control, the defense got frazzled by play action, Dabol got far too cute in the 3rd quarter, and in general the team in the second half lightened up on the peddle. I don’t know if they read too much of their own headlines or had the Pats on their mind but the entire team had its hipcups. That said they deserve credit for not being rattled when they went down 17-14 and the entire team making the plays to win. 3. We Live and Die By His Arm. Allen has certainly established a new floor for what to expect from him. This was his worst game of the three yet I still found myself crediting Allen for getting the W. We have to accept that the bonehead Hero plays will never leave completely because the positives he makes when he is trying to make a play out weigh the bad. The Giants game showed I think a strong game by Josh where he can maintain from the show risky plays and just dominate. I am fine with this being his new floor as long as the better games out weigh the ones like this. He has yet to have a game like Minnesota or Miami last year where he is the best player period which has me excited because it’s comjng. 4. Daboll overall has been good. I hated the focus on jet sweeps yesterday, it’s a gadget play not one we should do regularly. But I feel he has done a great job keeping defenses on their toes with formations and personal and really having a solid feel for what areas of a defense he can attack with the offense. 5. Is it me or has Ed Oliver been quiet? Perhaps it is hype in preseason or just that DTs aren’t always present but I feel maybe I expected more plays. The Jets game he was quite noticeable but since then I think he’s been an afterthought. He hasn’t been bad but I wonder if he is going through some early rookie adjustment. 6. Harrison Phillips has been tremendous at batting passes and altering the pocket. His growth is noticeable and he should be a great partner for Oliver long term. 7. The Offense is close to hitting over 30 pts plus. The offense is a work in progress but you can see the potential. In every game Buffalo has left points on the table for various reasons. If it was the end of the season it would be a real concern but right now compared to last year it seems like more of an offense finding it’s way. I expect we will have less penalties and turnovers that stop points and Josh will hit the downfield receiver more regularly. 8. Felicano is an important cog to on the offesnevie line. His absence was noticeable and I hope he is back for the Pats. Go bills!

I deleted my twitter account 6 months again and I’ve been better for it. People are just straight asses and say stuff that in person they wouldn’t. I will say the fan base is fickle that they want and expect success yet the patience isn’t there at points when our starting QB himself hasn’t even played a full season combined yet despite he leading them to be3-0.

I felt the same way. I walked away thinking that even if this season does amount to 8-8 the organization as a whole feels farrr more stable then at any point I can remember as an adult (31 they have been bad forever). in fairness to the Jets though if you switched roster between buffalo and NY I feel the expectations would’ve been the same and that the media created these heightened goals. Buffalos roster was always ahead by a bit and while similar the Jets roster in buffalo would’ve had more tempered expectations like you saw from the media with the Bills. Realistically the media wants one if not both NYC teams to do well it’s hell marketability. So of course once the Jets got Bell and Mosley plus Darnolds possible growth it setup a nightmare scenario where if things went sideways the fall was going to be harder then maybe it really is. Such is life for big market teams they will pump you up big but when you fall it’s a canyon. There is no rational reason Buffalo shouldn’t have had an equal number of night games like the Jets at 2-3 other then market, but the dysfunction shines greater now with the attention.

The INT called back its hard to know what it is if the WR/TE is allowed to run his actual route. Kinda butterfly effect, but yea even in a perfect world Allen has 1 INT on the day. I just hope he smartens up on the throws like Maye they won’t all be drops