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Wow this thread really took a freaking turn.. yikes!

15. Tyrell Williams (27), WR, Los Angeles Chargers 37. Ja'Wuan James (27), OT, Miami Dolphins 41. Mitch Morse (27), C, Kansas City Chiefs Give me those three and one of these guys and I'd be thrilled: 27. Anthony Barr (27), LB, Minnesota Vikings 44. Shaquil Barrett (26), OLB/DE, Denver Broncos 46. Terrell Suggs (36), OLB/DE, Baltimore Ravens The O-Line I really want to see them sign two decent to good FA's and IMO Tyrell should be their #1 target for WR. My goal is to build a WR corp not one guy and I believe with him Foster and Jones plus a draft pick WR and McKenzie the WR corp is far more dynamic which they should want. If you sign those three you go into the draft like this on offense: WR1 T. Williams WR-Slot Jones LT Dawkins LG Long C Morse RG Miller RT James TE Croom/Thomas WR2 Foster (not including QB or RB but we know those) I think with that you really have the ability to work from a position of strength and can draft BPA whether it is OL/DE/WR in the first 3 rounds. In regards to defense they need another edge rusher and Barr and Barrett are young enough to give them some years and hopefully decent numbers. Suggs would be a vet move mixed with his sack ability which could really help to polish off what already is a solid D.

I would not say its universal, but I do agree a sizable amount of the fanbase views toughness grit etc.. as being native to Buffalo and wants to see that from their players. These people work hard for their money usually in blue collar esq jobs or their family comes from that and they have no patience for "me first" type players or players afraid to mix it up and get dirty. Their idea is if your representing Buffalo you better role up your sleeves and be ready to go. I think if AB was signed a lot of fans would be fine with it, but this segment would be on him the moment he slipped.

Loved watching that highlight video. His 2012 season was insane. I remember after the season everyone was saying if he can keep that going the Bills offense really would be set even if it was just an average QB. It was too bad injuries kinda took out his career there he was always a good dude. That 2012 season was so strange for the Bills. The hype going into the year was that they would finally get back into the playoffs given the addition of Mario and the schedule. I think Jerry Sullivan who is the ultimate of negative for the Bills even predicted them making it in. They ended up getting blown out week 1 by the Jets and week 5 by the 49ers who were at their height of their powers, yet had they not lost close games to the Rams, Dolphins, & TItans who were under .500 and won just one of the Colts & Texans they would've made it. I liked Chan but he seemed spent and beyond able to fix things by the end of that season.

Look forward to seeing you out there playing on it!! ? They can play in my backyard we'd be able to charge a ton for tickets although limited quantities ?

Right! Like I have found I get out pretty easily and the pricing has always been good. I am semi-sentimental because my dad any time we went we always parked there, but always wondered on the food and party.

I am honored by the award and yes that is the location I was referring to.

I have parked there before and the inside actually seems like a really great place to party for the Bills. Anyone go there for the games to hang out? Is it good?

I just posted a big thing on the Bills schedule last week. The NFL is potentially putting Packers at Bears as the opener for the 100th anniversary of the NFL season. If that happens as expected NE hosts on Sunday night. The Chiefs or Steelers are the two favorites for that at this point with Steelers more likely so the Chiefs matchup is preserved by the networks for a later season game. Browns are the other wildcard that may end up being considered given Baker and the hype there. Cowboys is basically a no given they almost always play an NFC East opponent with last year being the one exception when they opened in Carolina and the only time in the last decade they opened AFC was the Jets in 2011.

Antonio Brown is not just another WR. The guy already holds a bunch of NFL records including most consecutive seasons with 100 yard catches and he will go down as HOF. That is a bit different then Santonio or Plaxico. Also JuJu benefited greatly from Brown being double teamed weekly, there is a laundry list of WR's who had great numbers right up until they faced the real pressure like AB has. Washington was the same guy Big Ben just berated this season for dropping catches. My overall point is that the Steelers are letting two of their best players who are cornerstone type players for any team go in a super small amount of time. The majority of NFL teams work so they keep that group together for as long as possible. The Bell portion makes sense because it is money, but AB is a whole different animal. For as much credit as people always seem willing to give PIT they missed the playoffs this last season with drama that makes them look like the NFL Kardashians and they are getting worse at both skill positions on offense with a QB who is only getting older. That doesn't sound like a very good situation.

Part of players flaming out and drafts not working is having a constant rotation of coaches where players do not fit scheme. This decade we went from Chans players to Marrone players to Rexs players to McD's players all in about a 6 year period. That many scheme changes makes you bleed players like there is no tomorrow.

If Allen is a bust McD is not going to be fired. In fact it would take a season 4-12 or worse for that to be possible. The Pegula's want some stability and firing coaches constantly does not provide that. McD breaking the drought is a pretty sizable thing for his resume that will buy him a minimum of 4 years. Based off your comments on McD you don't seem to be a fan of the hire from day one so I will not go down that path with you. I am willing to give him 4 years to get his program him for better or worse unless they flat line this season. I am tired of recycling coaches every 2-3 years I want a guy to get his shot regardless of my view on what he does.

With Antonio Brown on his way out of Pittsburgh can anyone remember such a short time frame when two mammoth stars (Brown & Le'Veon Bell) left a team and when a team had dysfunction to the point two of their best players who are two of the best in their position left a roster? I literally cannot recall such a shakeup in such a short period of time during my years of watching the NFL. The closest I can think of in regards to players just saying their done was when Jim Harbaugh left San Fran and like half their roster retired on spot.

If they have a lot of players exit they can add compensatory picks

Lose twice... and go 14-2 really mind bend everyone!

Well that is a matter of perspective and two decades of irrelevance. Up until the drought Buffalo was a relatively respected market with the 60s being good, 70s not great but OJ was a star, 80s good early-rough middle-great late, and 90s great throughout. The problem with the Bills with Ralph was his willingness to be cheap in the weirdest ways and times such as not keeping Chuck Knox despite Knox fulfilling exactly what he promised but then in the mid 2000s spending a boat load of money of OL FA's like Derrick Dockery and Langston Walker. If the Minnesota Vikings are the definition of a model franchise who has done everything but win the big one, Buffalo is like the bizzaro world version inverted where they walked into success not necessarily intentionally with some really strange moves along the way.

I was thinking about this on the way to work. Outside of the Bills crashing to the bottom of the NFL this year Sean McDermott should be the head coach for at least four years for the Buffalo Bills. That got me wondering how many Bills coaches have made it four years or more. Well its a short list: Dick Jauron 2006 to 2009: 4 seasons fired mid way into his last and the only one of the four to not ever make the playoffs Marv Levy: 1986 to 1997 Chuck Knox: 1978-1982 Lou Saban: 1972- 1976 and 1962-1965 That is it. The plus side is other then Jauron any coach who has went at least four seasons made the playoffs two times and had a decent record of success relatively speaking. Historically that does bode well for McDermott. Only five coaches excluding the ones above and not including McDermott made it three seasons: Joe Collier 1966-68, Kay Stephenson 1983-1985, Wade Phillips 1998-2000, Greg Williams 2001-2003, and Chan Gailey 2010-2012.

For every good defensive game there are 4-5 that are the Bills Titans which are absolutely ugly games with nothing exciting. I hated the Pats Rams SB because it was boring not because it was low scoring. The Pats Giants game in 07 was a game with many dramatic big moments that was low scoring same with the Panthers Broncos a few years ago. Watching teams just punt back and forth for an entire game is not exciting. The Bills Browns have had some atrocious low scoring snoozefests highlighted by the 6-3 game in 2009 which every fan for both teams deserves a refund for. I do agree that the the rules suck and I hate that if you graze a QB or WR it's almost always a penalty and I'd like to see that swing back to something more rational. Second Allen vs Mayfield are two QBs with the potential to produce a ton of incredibly exciting big moments which Id rather see.

The Bills deserve credit for not keeping Taylor and trying for another 9-7 or 10-6 playoff run fooling themselves that would be enough and taking the swing they did last year. The Dolphins and Giants are case and point of what happens thinking what they had is enough and now they enter a QB market that is lackluster as heck this draft and FA wise.

The thing with the Patriots is I doubt they play division. KC or PIT or even CLE is a far more sexy SNF matchup

Absolutely! This draft is deep on both OL/DL which we need and the WR side once your out of the top 10 you actually have a good selection of guys without reaching. If we have to give a 2nd and an extra 5th for two firsts that result in OL and WR I am all for it.

That's where I have been for years and we have saved money because of it. For example 2017: Pre-Season vs. Vikings: $30 total with fees Raiders: $150 with fees Saints: $165 with fees Colts: $100 with fees bought before season Total: Spent $445 for 4 of the 10 games and mind you that the Raiders and Saints game were two of the most expensive that season. I think we did well.

Agreed whole heartily there. I think one of the reasons fan behavior seems to have improved the last 5-6 years is the fact the team was far more competitive compared to years prior. But I would def agree that the crowd certainly changes if it is the cheaper "$20 to sit anywhere games" and you get many more people there to drink and party with no regard for the game or people around them.

Last years December proved why having seasons many of time is a losing venture if your concerned with money. My wife and I use to love those insanely cheap games because you could get great seats for virtually nothing and still have fun without the massive investment. I loved having seasons in 2016 we were section 143 and paid $1300 for both which I thought was fair and having seasons for sure worked out better money wise that season even with three straight December home games given the price for the Jets night game and Steelers home game alone. Our big thing why we didn't renew was the time commitment. September and October you could get back to Rochester by 6ish most of the time, but once Nov/Dec hit it was 7:30-8 and that just killed the day. I still think at some point we may return to seasons though it was a great experience.

The Ravens and Bills have a very odd relationship playing each other. Buffalo has won both meetings in Buffalo and Baltimore has won all of games in Baltimore minus the first time they ever played which would make sense given Baltimore was basically a quasi-expansion team at the time.