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Great, but once again - the move of cutting Evans has absolutely nothing to do with anything. He was NOT ON THE ROSTER - so his getting released did not open up a spot and has absolutely nothing at all to do with any rumors. He got better - they activated him and if anything had happened to other RBs he would have been promoted and since nothing happened - they let the time expire and cut him from the IR slot and will work to re-sign him in a couple of week to the PS if there is an opening. I think a lot of the buzz was created by internet morons that thought this move symbolized the Bills opening a spot to make a move and not having a clue it did not do that. If the Bills make a move - it will not be because they released Evans. The Bills have an open spot since putting Carter on IR (they played 1 roster spot short on Sunday) because they needed a spot for Von this week and it save them some money and having to promote and cut a PS player.
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What does Elam and a pick get you in this market?
Rochesterfan replied to FireChans's topic in The Stadium Wall
Come on man - you are better than this. Almost no 3rd string players have value. Those are not the guys teams trade. Teams trade for starting level players - Cooper, Adams, Hopkins, Cam Robinson, etc. - and those starting level players return 5th and 6th round picks - so no Elam does not have value - neither does Ingram or Lewis. That fact does not change the fact that Elam is a fine depth piece as @NewEra has said. He is our #3 depth corner at the boundary - it has been great that he has not had to play because it means the starters are healthy. Lewis was filling in for Johnson and only saw snaps as the dime inside DB the last 2 games. Ingram was filling in for Lewis as Dime and has not played defense the last 2 weeks with people healthy - they have specific roles. Whether they trade Elam or not ends up irrelevant- if they trade him - the Bills would need to find another boundary corner because Ingram and Lewis are not that and they need depth at that spot. He provides depth and the fact that he is not worth anything on the trade market also is consistent because anything beyond top end starter have little value, but they have more value to their current team with playbook knowledge and specific roles. -
It doesn’t open a spot. He was never on the roster. They have an open spot from Carter going on IR and that is for Von. Evans was in his IR windows and had to either be activated and put on the roster or cut.
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So why was Amari Cooper traded twice in his prime?
Rochesterfan replied to PoundingDog's topic in The Stadium Wall
Another way to look at this is not why was Cooper traded twice, but is it a fairly common thing for WRs. Why was Diggs traded twice in his Prime? Why was Devante Adams traded twice in his Prime? Why was Hopkins traded twice? Why was Brandon Cook traded 3 times so far and people continue to look at him as a potential trade target still? How about why have Hill, Hardman, AJ Brown, DJ Moore, Keenan Allen, Jerry Jeudy, etc. all been traded in their prime at least once? I think it is a WR and fit thing - they seem to get paid big time money and then get moved to free up space. It rarely has anything to do with passion and more to do with player/return on investment and current fit. I think receiver in general is a position that when teams are struggling- you can find ways to move on and try to find replacements elsewhere. There are always 20-30 replacement level players to find every year in the draft. Additionally you see several CBs traded throughout various years - not as many as WRs, but as both are sort of 1:1 positions outside the main formation they are easier positions to incorporate newly into a team during the season. Other positions,: QB, OL, DL, LB - they are so dependent upon the others around them working as a unit that you see few starter levels traded in general during the year. Just my opinion, but it seems many starter level WRs are available for trade every year and sometimes teams make the trades and other times they don’t. WRs have always been a bit of a high end maintenance position and sometimes they wear out their welcome, but I am not sure that is always the case when guys are traded. -
Defense: 1st Half vs 2nd Half - What is going on?
Rochesterfan replied to Mikie2times's topic in The Stadium Wall
I agree and although I also think it would be nice to see some major tendency breakers early in games - I do wonder if some of that is on purpose and something that they have learned over the years. I think the staff believes if they play base normal defense early - they can see exactly how teams want to attack their defense and how they will react and then exploit that later. If they break tendencies early - they do not see the response to things like simulated pressure and then have to adjust later. I believe that is what happened to the team years ago. With Dabol and Frazier - experienced coaches - they broke tendencies early and then hit lulls as they and teams adapted - see 3rd quarter struggles. I believe they have now overcompensated and that has lead to early game struggles. Neither approach is great against top tier teams and that has lead to struggles, but the current approach is really bad if they are outplayed and out muscled like against Baltimore. -
Defense: 1st Half vs 2nd Half - What is going on?
Rochesterfan replied to Mikie2times's topic in The Stadium Wall
I totally agree with this. I will also add that it is not even a halftime adjustment for all the people that say the coaches don’t adjust during the game - you see them making adjustments and honing in on other teams starting by the end of the first quarter and the second quarter. The same issue occurs on offense where they have a set run of plays scripted, but it looks like Josh wants it to happen similar to what he is expecting and doesn’t follow his check down rules and the offense struggles for the first quarter until he gets into the flow reading the defense. You can’t really even say this is a McD issue because a few years ago it was exactly the opposite. The Bills would come out and score nearly 100% of the time on the first couple of drives build a lead and stop other teams most of the first half. Then everyone complained because after halftime the adjustments made by other teams worked for the 3rd quarter and the games would tighten up - both the offense and defense struggled and then the 4th quarter hit and boom they would salt the game away. I think it is really just the NFL - Most games teams have flow and then lose it and other teams look lost and then move forward. I don’t think it is as pronounced with other teams because with the Bills when both the offense and defense are working close games become blowouts quickly and that is what you are seeing. -
🤦♂️. Nice view - you can clearly see his had is already off the ball by step 2. It perfectly shows why it is not a catch. If he had control wouldn’t the ball stay where it was - it is moving and therefore not a catch. If you think this is a TD - show me other examples where a guy bobbles the ball as he is in the process and gets the completion. This is 100% incomplete as at no time does he have full control because the defender did his job.
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The coaches can tell them what they are challenging, but during review they are looking for other reviewable aspects and in this case which is rare - they realized not that Kincaid failed to make the catch, but that he fumbled before he was down. They made a change to the ruling and therefore - even though the it did not prove to be what was challenged- the play was changed and therefore technically the Titans are not penalized. This is a rare occurrence and is typically seen on challenges to spotting of the ball where the ball is moved either forward or backwards a few inches and therefore the challenge is acceptable, but the outcome may not be changed - such as the guy was still short of getting a first down. It is not something to really take advantage of - it is just a minor outcome of a play.
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Yes you are wrong because he needs to complete the catch - it is total different than a runner at the goal line. The 2 steps for a completion do not start until the player has control of the ball. He gets it in 1 hand, loses control as the ball slides down into his mid section - regains control and gets 1 foot in and one foot out of bounds. It is not a catch anywhere on the field of play since he did not get both feet down in bounds with control of the ball. The goal line only matters if the player has control - such as a running play. A passing play still requires the player to make the catch. I feel for Coleman because it was a great effort and he literally made a superb attempt, but the defender looked to just free up the ball and force him to regather and his toe was just out of bounds. Sucks, but it was the right call and the same reason the Kincaid catch last week was not challenged - you must maintain that control and get your feet down. It was also why the Kincaid catch today was a catch and fumble as he got 2 feet down and dove forward completing the play as the ball was knocked out and ruled a fumble.
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Not challenging Dalton sideline catch or Cook TD
Rochesterfan replied to Pete's topic in The Stadium Wall
I guess I am not seeing his Elbow hit in bounds for sure. The spot the video is stopped - the pellets flying up are not from his elbow, but from the defenders back foot. His elbow is still in the air - it comes down and connects to the ground just as his forearm and lower body is hitting out of bounds. It is also difficult to tell, but at 0.01 seconds on that video his toe hits right on the sideline in bounds, but slides - does it touch out of bounds? At 0:02 seconds his arm comes down and the elbow and forearm hit simultaneously with his arm out of bounds. It was not going to be overturned because even as a homer of a Bills fan - it was the correct call. The Dalton catch by the sidelines also would not be overturned in my opinion - not because of a small bobble, but because it is not a catch until he demonstrates control and control means not grabbing and having the 2 bobbles before he hits the ground. He did not show control until he was out of bounds. If Dalton makes the catch clean at first with both hands and controls it until he hits the ground and it moves the small wobble that it did - then I could see the challenge, but he clearly loses control right after the catch as he is going down as the ball moves while falling and that to me is why the Refs called it correctly incomplete. They were correctly not challenged - although you could use the Cook challenge as a timeout, but the effect was going to be the same - a play stoppage and incomplete. -
Watching Cook over his time - I think that throw is very hard for him to catch. That particular throw - over the top/shoulder with the receiver going straight away - is a WR style catch and Cook has missed on several of those over the last 2 years - especially last year. I don’t think they are really drops as those are going to be very low percentage catches for him. Cook is much better on the quick sideline routes and the crossing the middle style routes - where he can turn and get eyes on the ball and look it in. I think Brady and Josh need to recognize that and adjust because Ty Johnson and Ray Davis seem better at that route. It does not mean the Bills should not utilize Cook in the passing game or limit his plays, but maybe they need to look as his personal route tree and limit that specific type of throw and move him to something where he can really see the entire pass. He is a good receiver out of the backfield and has shown that at every level he has played, but he looks very awkward when trying to catch that type of pass and he seems to misjudge and not make a hands catch like he does elsewhere on the field.
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Well - the team with the 2nd longest streak - the Rams got blown out today after 9-10 weeks. It shows just how difficult it is to be in every game or be blowing people out. The streak is pretty amazing overall and I think is a testament to coaching, team build, preparation, and the players commitment to this staff that they give everything each week to try and win.
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I am sorry, but 30 posts - poor topic recognition - just plain stupid with no real stats to back things up - my god - hang it up. 🤦♂️ McD has been repeatedly praised for being one of the best at using analytics to determine go for it - versus punt/FG tries in relation to outcome impacting wins. The data shows that he is among the best at being aggressive at the correct times and situations. Raw numbers mean nothing - the Bills are amongst the highest scoring teams meaning they face fewer 4th down in general and are ahead many of the times and it is inappropriate to go for it. It also boasted Tyrod as the starting QB and a strong defense. McD was conservative in his first season - 100% based upon the team. He loosened up a bit in year 2 with a rookie QB and has learned ever since. I 100% agree with this post.
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I totally agree - the first time through I was using over 8 which moved Baltimore to all of last year, but after re-reading it moved Baltimore to week 18 of last year. I also think it just goes to show how incredible this is.
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I think it is the Rams at 10 weeks - with week 9 of 2023. They lost week 13 in 2023 to GB by 8 - so 6 games ago Even if you include the Bengals game - we have the longest streak by far. Nearly 1/2 of the teams have lost by 7 either week 18 of 2023, week 1, or wk 2 of 2024. The longest outside the Bills - looks like the Rams in the middle of last year - 10 games ago. The Bills still have all of last year and this year as longer than every other team. You can spin McD any way you want, but the preparation of the Bills can not be questioned. Not only do they rarely lose, but even when they do - it is an intense close competition. Meanwhile the coaches some of our fans slobber over have weeks that there teams just are not prepared and it gets worse if you include the playoffs for teams not better. The fact that people point to Cincinnati like that is so much closer ends up as a joke. The Bills are still very dominant in this category.
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The Ripoff Report-Double Header!
Rochesterfan replied to WhitewalkerInPhilly's topic in The Stadium Wall
Thank you for a nice write up. First - I will say in regards to the running game and I have not seen it mentioned really - I believe the weather played a lot with gameplan and play calls. The Bills - especially in the first half - spent the majority of the time going into the wind. The wind caused issues with deeper and outside throws - therefore you saw more running and short passes and more focus around the line of scrimmage. I will be very interested as the games move along to see how the JA passing chart expands, but I think they had an Arizona team they felt they could run on and a wind that impacted throws down the field and to the sidelines. Second - and maybe it will change, but I can’t stand the kickoff rules. Really other than the Bills game nearly every kick was still a touchback and the only kicks that weren’t - were caused by the wind. Yes those 4 kicks ( 2 returns and 2 penalties) had an impact, but I would prefer they just get rid of it and move on. We will see as it will be a bigger impact all year on the Bills than the majority of the teams, but I also think that is unfair - it is not an even impact on teams due strictly to weather. -
Game management strategy & “The big miss”
Rochesterfan replied to WIDE LEFT's topic in The Stadium Wall
There were 2 - 1 was #99 I believe on the outside - very minor but as he is crashing down the Cardinal player is pushing him in the back with one hand. Again that is minor. #2 is pretty egregious- Bills # 30 something right in the hole. He is going to be double teamed by Cards #3 (2nd deep man) and #44. The Bills guy is past #44 at the 30 and is breaking down near the 25 - he looks to be sandwiched by the 2 Cardinals players, but fights through. #3 looks to whiff and as the Bills player reaches out at the 25 - you can clearly see #44 driving him from behind. #44 never gets him from the front or side everything is him pushing from behind and that opens the gap to run through. Even with that - the Bills are still in pretty good shape - 95, 5, and 41 are all converging on the runner right in the hole. Both Gilliam and Elam have him in their arms at the 35, but fail to make the tackle. An outside DB also has him lined up as they are making the tackle near the 37 and ducks and ends up giving him the O’le - allowing the TD. It was bad tackling, but a block in the back also. -
Game management strategy & “The big miss”
Rochesterfan replied to WIDE LEFT's topic in The Stadium Wall
Both the Bills and Cards kicked to the Endzone with the wind - that seemed to be the plan of just about every team. Neither the Bills or Cards kicked to the endzone against the wind - neither kicker could get the ball there with the wind. The Cards did not make the decision to kick to the endzone into the wind. They had 1 kickoff in the first Quarter that was a long return and then tried squibing to start the 3rd quarter and left it short of the landing zone and the Bills got the ball at the 40 - they knew they could not get the ball to the endzone in that direction. If the wind had allowed - both teams would have put every kick into the endzone, but the wind did not allow. It is also difficult to know exactly what Arizona was blocking - up to the return for TD - they only had 1 return for 25 yards with the kick in the first quarter - where the player was tackled short of the 30. The rest there was no return and therefore the up guys really never got to move. The 2nd kick was muffed and never returned - downed inside the 5. The TD return had a major block in the back right where the returner was going and 3 Bills with a chance to tackle him - it seems like they were pretty prepared for what the cards were doing - the players on the field failed the coach. -
Game management strategy & “The big miss”
Rochesterfan replied to WIDE LEFT's topic in The Stadium Wall
It is harder - just look at the 6 kick-offs that went in that direction and the impact of the wind. Arizona #1 - Prater kicked deep - could only get the ball to the 2 and we had a 53 yard return. Arizona #2 - Prater tried a squib and it hit short of the zone and the Bills got it at the 20. Bills #1 - Deep kick to the 4 - return to the 29. Bills #2 - Deep Kick to the 4 - muff Bills #3 - Deep Kick to the 4 - TD return with a huge block in the back right at the point of contact and 2 Bills sliding off the runner and a third guy going O’le. Bills #4 - Tried to squib, but kick goes OB. The wind made it impossible going in that direction to get any kick to the end zone. The Ball was getting held up and pushed short and if you tried to keep it short - the wind was pushing it hard toward the sideline where Bass’s kick went. Squibs and low line drives are even harder now because it must go to the landing zone and if it is low enough an up man can knock it down short of the landing zone - so you have many fewer paths to try and squib the ball through. Shaw - I don’t think this is correct - they pretty much knew exactly where he could reach going that direction into the wind. The previous 2 kicks were identical and both landed at exactly the 4 - exactly the same as the returned kick. They had covered well on the first and the second was muffed. Even the TD return was well covered. They had a guy right at the point get blocked right in the back and pushed past the returner and then the 2nd wave had 2 guys wrap up and slide off and a 3rd guy sort of O’le out of the way. I think the pregame plan was to kick all to the endzone, but neither kicker could get the ball there with the wind. The Bills felt good about their coverage and some bad play by a few guys and an uncalled penalty created the TD. -
Neither Kicker going that direction could reach the end zone the entire game. Bass reached the 4 twice going that direction and Prater got 1 to the 2, but also had one short of the landing zone. As every kick going the other way was through the end zone - pretty sure that is what they wanted, but both teams realized early that was not possible. Therefore both teams were trying some different things that didn’t really work for either team.
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That is True - it is also statistically likely that the same is true of any replacement coach as 0% of people coaching the Bills have won a Super Bowl. It is statistically more likely for every coach hired that they will be fired rather than winning the Super Bowl as only like 35 coaches have ever won and the number of coaches in the history of the NFL is significant.
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You should be immediately banned for making crap up. This is completely false and easily proven with 30 seconds of research. Let’s start with John Madden and the Raiders. 1st Superbowl 1976 - his 8th season with Oakland. Do you know him - got an entire video game franchise named after him. How about Bill Cower? Started in 1992 in Pittsburgh - won his first Super Bowl in 2005 - so 13 years in Pittsburgh before his first Super Bowl. That message must have been super stale. Then you have a coach like Tom Landry that won his first Super Bowl and first championship in year 12. Not all of them were SB years, but he never won a NFL championship before the merger either. So that is 3 guys that break the thread. Then there are all of the coaches mentioned that coached for way more than 7 years on multiple teams before finding the magic to win one. Is it common - No, but it has happened multiple times already in the history of the NFL. 🤦♂️🤷♂️
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These are the statements I just don’t get. I can understand the signing because if Trubisky is hurt - you want a veteran ready on the PS to elevate for a game or two. The truth is though - Mike White has little to no upside and he is not young or really a gamer. White is over 29 and a half years old - he is only about 100 days (1/3 of a year) younger than Mitch. He is over a year and a half older than Josh. He is not young - and his game stats are terrible overall. His completion %, TD/Int ratio, QB rating are all significantly worse than Mitch’s. If people are complaining about Mitch being bad - White is worse. I have no issue with the signing because I understand what the Bills are looking for and you are both correct we need Josh to roll and he has knowledge of our division. I just don’t think we should have any reason to try and justify the signing because White is not young or a player with upside - he is a middling low level QB that can carry a clipboard and throw a helmet on in a dire situation.
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Cam Newton, recognizing coverages, disguises and Sean McDermott
Rochesterfan replied to appoo's topic in The Stadium Wall
And what is the 49ers record versus the Chiefs since 2019 both regular season and playoffs. Oh they are 0-3 and lost twice in the Super Bowl - yes so much better than the Bills. Wish we were that much better like the 49ers. The Bengals do have 1 playoff win and a loss and 0 Superbowls and multiple years of missing the playoffs because of losses to teams like Cleveland every year. The Ravens are a staggering 1-3 versus the Chiefs and 0-1 in the playoffs giving up 30 of 39 pass attempts, a TD, and no turnovers. Please facts matter, but so does context - the other teams have slowed them down slightly, but they also do not pose the offensive threat of the Bills. You don’t think that maybe Reid and Mahomes have a bit more juice going against Josh Allen and play things a bit more open rather than a team like SF that they think they can hold to the teens. I think the Bills defense has shown themselves to be able to do certain things very well - even in the playoffs, but there are match-ups that are not good for the style of defense the Bills play. Kansas City is a perfect example of that. A QB that can make reads noutside of the play when they buy time is hard for many defensive schemes, but it has opened the Bills up badly.