Rochesterfan

I think since the 2nd best team in the AFC was a home dog to this Bills team - I have no issue with spread. The spread is designed for betting and after getting beat by the Pats and what they showed - I would expect a 10+ point win. The Jets are right on par with Pittsburgh and that was 2 TDs. We will see with Detroit on Thanksgiving, but I would assume 17+ with the others.

What do you seriously think the spread should be? One team is winning on Defense and a run game - now minus their best runner and OL that just let Mac Jones move down the field on them to the tune of 6 scoring drives. One team has a top ranked offense and defense and has beaten the previous SB winner, and the division leaders of the AFC divisions one the road for 2 of the 3. 🤷‍♂️

Are the Jets taking Rodgers, Jones, etc or are they going to try to copy with their less than adequate offense?

How many 20 yard runs did they give up - I counted 2 both on the same drive. They gave up more passes of 20 yards than runs.

Because being up by 17 - the only thing that could beat them was Rodgers passing the ball. They just do not care about Stats - they care about the win and running the ball down 3 scores was giving the Bills the win.

Because if you switch up the Defense to stop the run - then you allow GB to move toward more passing. They did not care if GB was running the ball because it was eating clock and keeping the Nickel kept them from passing.

I just think they are not rushing anything and there are currently no open roster spots - so no sense in having to create a roster spot until you need to. They have been happy with the play of the youngsters - play them again and see if anything happens that opens a spot for you. If not then you make the deal and figure out who to cut and make a spot for him. He seems to be moving around fine - so let him keep practicing and make the move on your terms.

MGK - totally agree - I have started several responses and just deleted them - wish the Mods would cut this one loose or at least ban him from starting threads. What a waste of space.

Whether legit or not - the timing was based upon his Plea bargain in September after the start of the year. The plea bargain gave him 1 year probation and 40 hours community service. He just completed the community service - so that closed the book on the case and then the NFL suspends him. He only got 2 weeks because of the plea bargain and he completed the service. I don’t think the NFL threw the Chiefs a bone timing wise - I think with the Chiefs intimate knowledge of NFL suspensions they gamed the system. Many times these court cases get pushed off until the off season - hence guys get suspended to start the next season. In this case they pushed it off until after the start of the season - got it reduced - then had him complete community service heading into the bye. The NFL may have been kind by only doing 2 games, but I think the timing was fairly standard for these types of things.

Teams want young and offensive coordinators - the 2 things Leslie is not. Older Defensive HCs are for holding down the fort until you can get a QB - see Houston. Leslie should be everything teams want in a HC - especially with his embrace of analytics and his processing of teams and teaching and letting his position coaches coach, but very unlikely he ever gets a shot.

And maybe you’re right, but there is a lot more to dislike about the encounter than to like and a lot more happened than the teeny bit we saw on camera. One thing I know is we have not seen one party with these Bills at a hotel with a bunch of drunk/drugged women and a Bills player and his “entourage” knock her down and kick her. The one potential situation with a player potentially having severe misconduct with a female at a party was nearly immediately released by the Bills even though he denied everything. We will see where it ends up, but I just don’t see this FO making a trade for a 1/2 year rental on a RB with a history - it just doesn’t fit and this team is about fit.

Totally disagree - someone saw this happen and created a story to fit the video without ever asking what really happened. The Refs, players, league officials and team officials all have lives outside the NFL and sometimes those paths intersect - whether it is common friends, mutual acquaintances, or guys from college - everything should not automatically be seen as improper contact. The fact that someone took a video and then created a scenario for that video created a ton of issues that were cleared up in 20 seconds by getting the actual story. If these guys get together for some Texas A&M alumni event - I could not care less as they both have lives outside the NFL. If gambling is the issue - maybe people should stop putting money on a game they do not trust or that they think is fixed.

People should just be ashamed of themselves for jumping to immediate conclusions and firing a referee for nothing. I just do not get the rush to judgement in society today - everyone in the media wants to be first to report things without even knowing what they are reporting on. Just make a few assumptions and fit it to your images.

Alpha - it goes beyond what he did. He was having a nasty party and yes the girl was being a B word and wouldn’t leave, but she was trying to get to some of the other girls with her and get everyone out. It was a bad situation that he had paid people to take care and hotel security to assist with an he and a few friends took it to far. First off - he most certainly did kick the girl - whether hard or not that was admitted when he was cut from KC. Second he did it at a point that the woman was not a threat to him - he did it fully out of anger and revenge. Third - the question should be what kind of a party was he having in a hotel room with a bunch of very drunk or drugged women and a bunch of his friends. It sounds very much like the potential for our punters story. If it was a legit party - they could of had hotel security easily escort her away, but they avoided hotel security because there were other girls and drugs involved. What we know of the facts was that he told the Chiefs nothing happened and then the video came out - he apologized and the Chiefs canned him for lying. The NFL suspended him 8 games for this incident and his altercation with another man after this. The player admitted to having anger management issues and substance abuse issues and maybe he has reacted properly to treatment and is better, but to say none of that happened is 100% false. It should not color every decision, but it should also be a part of every decision anyone makes about Hunt going forward. In this case - I can totally understand a team like the Bills not wanting to trade for a guy that is 100% the opposite of the majority of the team. Maybe there is untapped potential, but I doubt a coach that worked with Andy Reid for as long as McDermott did would say that the KC incident - where Kansas City that has given every scumbag a second, third, or fourth chance - cuts a guy, maybe he is not for us. Maybe just maybe - McD and Beane know more about what actually happened than even you pretend to.

Totally disagree - he was brought in for 1 reason and 1 reason only - the Broncos were hoping to lure Rodgers to Denver and Hackett was the lure. They knew Rodgers was not happy with Lafleur and was a “free agent” and took a shot. The fact he sucks was not a color thing - it was that he was associated with the best FA QB - and without that he sucks and his old QB sucks.

Troll - he has been a troll all along. He is obsessed with everything great about other AFC east teams and how bad the Bills are. Don’t let his bull fool you - this is who he is. Einstein 🤮🤦‍♂️ - His dog is a better poster.

That was an excellent get for them - cheap and an RFA next year for the control. Another guy coming off an injury, but makes sense for where the Jets are.

The UNC was fired by the NFLPA because he gave them attitude during their interview because they were questioning his motives. The NFLPA and the NFL both came out and said by the agreed to protocol - everyone followed the protocol in place, but that the intent was missed since they believe Tua had a potential concussion. Neither side has stated that anyone did anything wrong in the Bills/Miami game. The UNC and the team doctor both stated he passed the concussion protocols to return. The NFLPA contends because he stumbled the intent was that he should of been held out whether he passed or not and hence the new ill defined rules. What we found out after the fact is even if yo are cleared in game from having a concussion - they will still test you during the following week in case symptoms or trauma appear later. Hence Tua getting tested during the week between the Bills and Bengals. I think it already happened funnily enough to Miami the next week when Bridgewater was pulled after 1 series and was not allowed to return and they lost the game. They said he passed protocol, but because he stumbled after the sack/safety - he was done.

Ok, but I just don’t see it. They know they are not there yet and for a GM that covets draft picks even more than our GM - I just do not see them wasting a day 2 pick on a 1/2 year rental for a RB, but maybe they think he can make them better. They already have a mutiny going on with Mims and now Moore at the WR position and if they trade for another RB and keep Wilson from growing - then they are just plain stupid and I don’t think Douglas is stupid. Maybe they make a Moore for Hunt move and see if the Browns will throw a pick in, but I do not see Douglas giving up a pick for Hunt without a corresponding move to recoup said draft pick and more. Especially not for Hunt on an expiring contract. That is a move for a team that is on the edge of winning it all. At least Cam Akers gives them an additional controlled year to allow Hall to work his way back.

Why would the Jets waste a draft pick on Hunt? They are building through the draft and Hunt is done after the season. Maybe they think they can do something, but the QB play has been terrible - I just don’t see them spending the draft capital for no real reward.

He is by far their best and most versatile OL man. This hurts more than Hall I think as their OL depth was weak to begin with and he has shifted between RG and LG and then slide out to tackle to fill that hole.

Nothing to add to your foolish comments. A guy that has a 4.1 YPC and scored 4 TDs and couldn’t even get on the field most of last year and a guy that the jets thought so much of they drafted Hall - yep no slouch 🤦‍♂️

I don’t get this Bull. The stadium that they are basing this on Tottenham Hotspur Stadium in London cost 1.2 Billion US dollars in 2016 with pre-pandemic cost for Steel, Gas, and electrical components. The Stadium here is expected to be nicer, slightly taller, and have more weather protection because it not protected by the city, but the cost over 6 years later is 200,000 more - even factoring in the pandemic rise. It does not sound like huge corruption - it sounds just about right based upon other builds of this stadium - especially with the technology they want for protecting and growing a grass field in this climate in winter. The comment about being corrupt compared to Tennessee is laughable - Nashville can do what they are doing because they have a growing population and they actively chose not to invest in many things NYS invests in - like schooling.

Cry to the NFLPA - they found no fault. All could have been avoided if the player was truthful - it fixes the entire situation.

I doubt there will be any punishments because both the NFL and NFLPA stated that the protocols as written were followed. Intent of the protocol may have been abused, but the protocol itself was followed. The UNC was fired because the NFLPA could fire him via the agreement and he was not fired for doing anything wrong - in the end they fired him because he was rude to the NFLPA during their questioning- which was stated he rude because they were trying to pin blame on him and he argued back at them. They made changes to address the shortcomings in the protocol, but basically they found based upon everything that was done - no faults.