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The sideline one? Was that a great play/catch by the receiver making up for a bad throw by the QB or a great play/catch by the receiver combined with a great throw by the QB? I don't even know that Lee's catch was anything more than great awareness and a good NFL catch.

Fascinating... Not even a "depends on how each QB plays," huh?

Yep Joe B: 7 observations from 2018 Buffalo Bills training camp - Day 15 1) Josh Allen with the twos again- Well, it wasn't quite the first-team work that could have happened given the rotation over the last two days, but the fact that the Bills gave rookie quarterback Josh Allen the full day with the second-team offense is vital in itself. Now having taken two straight days of second-team reps, this is getting Allen acclimated with players that, for the most part, will be on the 53-man roster when all is said and done. He's throwing to roster-caliber receivers, and against roster-caliber defenders. Furthermore, getting him involved with the second-team offense for two straight days could also mean the Bills are readying him for work with the second unit in Friday's preseason game in Cleveland. Should that trend hold on Wednesday, the last practice of training camp, that would be the best evidence we could get that would confirm the plan for Allen on Friday. With the second-team, Allen looked smooth and sharp while connecting on 9-of-14 passes, and barely missing Malachi Dupre for a touchdown on a deep post. If he plays well enough against Cleveland, perhaps he might warrant some more first-team time ahead of the team's third preseason game -- which have practices in Orchard Park that are no longer open in full to the media. As for the other two quarterbacks, Nathan Peterman and A.J. McCarron flipped responsibilities from how the Bills positioned them on Monday. Peterman worked with the third-team offense on Monday and was with the top unit on Tuesday -- and vice versa for McCarron. Peterman went 9-of-9 while taking a pair of sacks with the ones, and McCarron was 9-of-12 with the third unit. Neither player has done anything to cancel themselves out of the competition to be the starting quarterback, which further complicates Sean McDermott's ultimate decision. and then today's depth chart: https://www.wkbw.com/sports/bills/2018-buffalo-bills-training-camp-depth-chart-day-16 AJ #1 Allen #2 Peterman #3 That's how it looks like it's going to be for Friday.

If it's McCarron, Allen, then Peterman... will you change your tune?

Ummm... which passes from Allen did WRs have to make great catches on? I named every single one I claimed were on WRs as Incompletions... so which ones did the WRs bail Allen out on with "great catches?"

Yikes! 3) A glimpse into life without Charles Clay- As the Bills practiced on the turf field for the first time this camp due to all the rain earlier in the day, they rested starting tight end Charles Clay likely due to the unforgiving nature those turf fields tend to have. It's also probably why the Bills chose to have a practice in shorts rather than in full pads. However, it was good that the Bills rested Clay primarily because it helped indicate what their tight end depth chart really is -- especially with all the changes over the last three days. It was clear throughout practice, too. The top three tight ends, without fail, were Jason Croom, Khari Lee, and Logan Thomas. Nick O'Leary, once the second tight end for the majority of camp, was yet again pushed down to work with the second and third-team offenses. I've written it the last few days, but O'Leary is in major roster trouble as it stands. The Bills love Lee, they've seen Croom develop, and Thomas has become a well-rounded tight end over time. Not having Clay at practice is just more proof that O'Leary needs to step it up.

2 blatant drops are caught and Foster runs full speed rather than looking backwards for 30+ yards while running OR flat out just stopping in the middle of a route for just 1 of the 2 bombs Allen threw him and that's 64% completion %. Not a recognized stats across the board, but any normal person's eyes should be able to pretty easily see that culpability for 1/3rd of the Incompletions in that game lies pretty much solely on the hands of sub-par WRs who can't catch or don't understand the concept of finishing a route.

BOOM!!! Well... there's that

Sums it all up right here. Peterman's INTs will be because he's very limited. Allen's INTs will be because he's trying to figure out his limits. The only way you figure out your limits in the NFL is testing them in live game action. That's the basic reason Allen starts sooner rather than later. Maybe not in Baltimore (though I think that's still pretty likely), but this season. Oh man... here's a monkey wrench in the chain from those notes: "With the second-team, Allen looked smooth and sharp while connecting on 9-of-14 passes, and barely missing Malachi Dupre for a touchdown on a deep post. If he plays well enough against Cleveland, perhaps he might warrant some more first-team time ahead of the team's third preseason game -- which have practices in Orchard Park that are no longer open in full to the media. " I'm sensing a last minute starting QB announcement to keep Baltimore on their toes... Allen- 42% McCarron-33% Peterman-25% Those are my odds.

Against 3rd stringers? Do you think Peterman starts on Friday? AJ is up in the rotation and Allen has been getting 1st and 2nd string reps largely since last week's game. Looking like Allen gets some of those reps in the Cleveland game.

If Allen gets no 1st or 2nd team reps in the game this week, I agree. But I don't think he needs to start to have a good chance. If AJ starts and Allen is 2nd, that's a rotation and it says Allen is still in it.

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This is good stuff. Thanks!

Based on watching his college film I could find and the 1st half of the preseason game, that difference between 58% and 62% will be more on the WRs and OL than Allen.

Awesome video. Thanks for posting.

Well... the "Allen fanboys" (as you ridiculously call some of us... though I'll be perfectly happy with McCarron to start the season and will ultimately be fine if Peterman actually does) are looking more and more likely to see their guy start sooner rather than later.

Friday Allen gets 1st team reps, and today this observation from Faurburn: It's getting interesting, folks

Exactly. He missed 9 passes. 2 were blatant drops that should have been caught. He'd have a 58% completion % with just those 2 catches. Of the 3 bombs to Foster that were incomplete, 2 of those could have easily been catches and TDs. The 1st one absolutely should have been. Foster turned his head to look back at the QB while running the moment he passed the DB and ran for 30+ yards looking backwards and the ball STILL basically hit his fingertips. Try running 30 yards looking backwards. That was on Foster. The other bomb Foster just stopped running at one point because he thought Allen was sacked. If Foster catches just one of those 2 passes and the 2 blatant drops are caught, Allen has a 63% completion %. If both are caught, he's 68.4%. All while throwing downfield and throwing for another TD or 2. Allen was accurate in that game. That's a great example of stats lying.

Capable, yes. Absolutely will OR will not, absolutely ridiculous--and that, in fact, is what makes no sense.

Absolutely loathed the pick. I wanted Mayfield then Darnold then Rosen or Jackson. Analytics absolutely hated our pick. But this was a true scouting pick. And after we drafted him and I took the time to dive deep into Allen's history and film from middle school on up (some post-scouting), I got more and more excited about a kid that just has one of the most unique stories you're going to see for a top 10 NFL QB prospect.

Didn't say you should, but absolute and definitive statements about things that have yet to pass like that are really ridiculous.

Should tell you whoever wrote that article looked at random highlights and didn't actually watch the game. Bold statement. A statement like that warrants the question of whether you'll leave the message board if you're wrong with no consequences for anyone else if you're right since you're absolutely certain. If that's the case, you risk nothing... right?

I just watched Kelly's "A Football Life" today and it just made me so damn nostalgic. Here's to hoping Allen's our next Buffalo Legend!!!

Do you think 47% is an accurate reflection of how accurate Allen was with his passes in terms of where he wanted the ball to go?