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No, he said it after day 3, and he said Allen was the best QB through 3 days of Training Camp.

Is our offensive talent this year somehow worse than last year when we made the playoffs?

A few months and running already as a thread, bro.

Factor????? Consider Allen the pace car of this QB race because that's exactly what he is, and he's clearly the one who's set the pace so far. Allen starts at Baltimore.

That's not a different perspective at all. What you just posted accounts merely for the depth chart so far and says nothing about performance. Allen was the one who was going into camp taking almost primarily 3rd team reps and then suddenly McDermott said now they're going to be split evenly. You're talking Apple's, I'm talking Zucchini.

Joe B: 7 observations from 2018 Buffalo Bills training camp - Day 3 1) The Josh Allen Experience ...However, his next round of reps was with the first-team and went well. His lone missed attempt went for an interception on paper, but it was on a throw that you'd want your quarterback to try in that situation. Allen threw a jump ball to the 6-foot-5 Kelvin Benjamin, to which most times the receiver will come down with the ball. It was tight coverage and went off his hands not once, but twice, and hung up in the air -- to which Jordan Poyer came over and caught the pass right before it hit the ground. That throw is one that was not made enough over the last three years, so I'm not going to fault him for it. All in all, his day ended 5-of-8 with one touchdown and two interceptions, with only one being his fault. He had the best practice of the group on Saturday and has been the best quarterback at camp thus far. 2) McCarron playing it safe- It's a bit frustrating with A.J. McCarron. Every once and again he'll see his first read and make a great throw down the field that makes you want to see more, but the remainder of the time shows a version of McCarron that is playing not to lose the job... Even though McCarron is completing the most passes, he has not been the most impressive quarterback. 3) Peterman looks nervous- Training camp is three days old which is enough of a sample size to conclude that Nathan Peterman has not looked like the same player that he was during spring practices... In his first three days, Peterman has panicked in the pocket a bit and looks a little nervous to my eye. As a result, his accuracy has suffered, completing only 6-of-14 pass attempts over the last two days.

Things don't bode well for Peterman (or McCarron, for that matter) to win the starting job. There's only 1 QB on the roster who's consistently trended up through the entire offseason from OTAs to Minicamp to the first 3 days of Training Camp. It's not Peterman. It's not McCarron. I said all along the first week of Training Camp would be the biggest indication of who our starting QB would eventually be. Well, right now, 3 days in, there's a clear winner so far. Allen will start.

Did the OP seriously suggest we should build around Peterman???? Well I guess that settles that... the OP is SaviorPeterman under a new username.

I can copy and paste, too Joe B: 7 observations from 2018 Buffalo Bills training camp - Day 3 1) The Josh Allen Experience- Fans in attendance on Saturday saw to the sincerest form of Josh Allen -- at least the one that he portrayed during his college days. Early on during individual drills, he misfired a few rockets to his receivers that made them work a bit harder than they needed to. However, once it got to team drills, Allen started to shine. His first throw was an on-point slant route in tight coverage that the defensive back barely got a hand on to break it up. Then he read the next play correctly -- a pick play that freed up wideout Kaelin Clay on a wheel route -- and Allen put the perfect touch on the throw to hit Clay in stride, and he quickly ran into the end zone for a touchdown. The very next play, he made a fantastic anticipatory throw to Cam Phillips on a comeback route to the left sideline that was there as soon as the wideout turned. Allen was feeling himself, which is what led to the next part of the Josh Allen Experience. The next play, Allen spotted his target in the end zone on an out route, stared him down -- to which cornerback Ryan Carter baited him and quickly jumped in front for the interception. That play was entirely on Allen. However, his next round of reps was with the first-team and went well. His lone missed attempt went for an interception on paper, but it was on a throw that you'd want your quarterback to try in that situation. Allen threw a jump ball to the 6-foot-5 Kelvin Benjamin, to which most times the receiver will come down with the ball. It was tight coverage and went off his hands not once, but twice, and hung up in the air -- to which Jordan Poyer came over and caught the pass right before it hit the ground. That throw is one that was not made enough over the last three years, so I'm not going to fault him for it. All in all, his day ended 5-of-8 with one touchdown and two interceptions, with only one being his fault. He had the best practice of the group on Saturday and has been the best quarterback at camp thus far. 3) Peterman looks nervous- Training camp is three days old which is enough of a sample size to conclude that Nathan Peterman has not looked like the same player that he was during spring practices. Peterman showed confidence in his arm, touch on his throws, and a deep understanding of the playbook during the spring. In his first three days, Peterman has panicked in the pocket a bit and looks a little nervous to my eye. As a result, his accuracy has suffered, completing only 6-of-14 pass attempts over the last two days. To his credit, he is trying to push the ball down the field. However, sometimes the pocket gets so muddy around him that he gets some happy feet, and it causes his throw to go haywire. It is still incredibly early in the summer of work here, but at this point, Peterman has been the third-best quarterback during training camp.

You're such a sweetheart Joe B: 7 observations from 2018 Buffalo Bills training camp - Day 3 1) The Josh Allen Experience- Fans in attendance on Saturday saw to the sincerest form of Josh Allen -- at least the one that he portrayed during his college days. Early on during individual drills, he misfired a few rockets to his receivers that made them work a bit harder than they needed to. However, once it got to team drills, Allen started to shine. His first throw was an on-point slant route in tight coverage that the defensive back barely got a hand on to break it up. Then he read the next play correctly -- a pick play that freed up wideout Kaelin Clay on a wheel route -- and Allen put the perfect touch on the throw to hit Clay in stride, and he quickly ran into the end zone for a touchdown. The very next play, he made a fantastic anticipatory throw to Cam Phillips on a comeback route to the left sideline that was there as soon as the wideout turned. Allen was feeling himself, which is what led to the next part of the Josh Allen Experience. The next play, Allen spotted his target in the end zone on an out route, stared him down -- to which cornerback Ryan Carter baited him and quickly jumped in front for the interception. That play was entirely on Allen. However, his next round of reps was with the first-team and went well. His lone missed attempt went for an interception on paper, but it was on a throw that you'd want your quarterback to try in that situation. Allen threw a jump ball to the 6-foot-5 Kelvin Benjamin, to which most times the receiver will come down with the ball. It was tight coverage and went off his hands not once, but twice, and hung up in the air -- to which Jordan Poyer came over and caught the pass right before it hit the ground. That throw is one that was not made enough over the last three years, so I'm not going to fault him for it. All in all, his day ended 5-of-8 with one touchdown and two interceptions, with only one being his fault. He had the best practice of the group on Saturday and has been the best quarterback at camp thus far.

Ending of Minicamp McDermott said as we start Training Camp Allen would be running mostly with the 3s. Well, day 3 and... On a side note, was there a practice yesterday that was closed to the media and public or something? Or did I just completely miss day 2?

That pass should have been an interception and it was day 1. Was that a trick question???

Still not enough zip to call that a good throw, even in terms of velocity. In other words, Peterman might be functional with great protection up front, but will still be a pick machine without one

Peterman taught you that very valuable lesson 6 (almost 7) times in his 49 passing attempts last year, didn't he?

Allen looks solid early-on, inconsistent late Overall, it was a “plus” day for Josh Allen. That’s how I’d describe the rookie’s first NFL training camp practice. It certainly wasn’t perfect and there were times he looked like the inaccurate thrower so many want to scream from the hilltops that he is. But, for most of the two-hour practice, Allen was on target or close to it. https://wgr550.radio.com/articles/news/allen-looks-solid-early-inconsistent-late No. I apologize, but I am not connected 24/7 the way many on this message board are. Plenty of up to the second posts for you to keep up with that ... but is anyone else seeing Allen just increasingly likely at this point???

Love it!!! Mahalo!!!

What I would like about this is that this is the only game I might attend this year. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/predicting-when-each-first-round-qb-should-and-will-make-his-debut-as-an-nfl-starter/amp/ Predicting when each first-round QB should and will make his debut as an NFL starter Josh Allen, Bills Should debut: Week 5, vs. Titans Will debut: Week 5, vs. Titans The Bills start the season with a gauntlet; at the Ravens, home against the Chargers, at the Vikings, and at the Packers. Buzz's girlfriend. Woof. In a roundabout way, Nathan Petermanwas the sacrificial lamb for the Bills against the Chargers' outrageous pass-rush in the November disaster for Buffalo in 2017, and I think he could take on a similar role early in the 2018 campaign. I'm not a betting guy, but if I was, the +820 for Peterman to start Week One would be very close to a no-brainer. The Bills coaches like Peterman a lot, and it wouldn't surprise me if he's steadier in camp than Allen and McCarron, although he's extremely unlikely to provide the "wow" throws Buffalo's 2018 first-rounder can. The Bills defense will keep them in games in September, yet 0-4 seems reasonable and a 2-2 start would be outstanding. Either way, that home outing against Tennessee seems like the logical time for Allen to make his Bills debut. The Titans defense won't be brutal this season, but it probably won't be as menacing up front as the squad's in Baltimore, Minnesota, or Los Angeles (units that finished 3rd, 2nd and 6th in Football Outsiders' Defensive DVOA in 2017), and having Allen start in Green Bay against Aaron Rodgers simply wouldn't be doing right by the young quarterback. Even one month on the sideline would be much more beneficial to Allen's chance to succeed in the NFL in Buffalo than starting him right away.

Whosdaq???? What's that????

I'm 37 and I look it. My wife's 36, but she looks considerably younger. Gotta count for something, right?

Have we heard anything yet on whether there was compromise on the whole "offset language" thing he was holding out over or did one side just completely fold?

Thank God Allen's finally signed!!! Obviously if he held out any chance of him winning the job goes down a TON with each passing day.

https://buffalonews.com/2018/07/21/bills-training-camp-question-10-who-wins-the-starting-quarterback-job/?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_campaign=puma&utm_medium=social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1532146645 Buffalo Bills quarterback Josh Allen practices throwing and footwork drills at the start of rookie mini camp at ADPRO Sports Training Center on Friday, May 11, 2018. (James P. McCoy/Buffalo News) Bills Training Camp Question 10: Who wins the starting quarterback job? By Vic Carucci | Published July 20, 2018 Case for Allen This is more a matter of examining whether there's any case to make against his starting from the very first game. The obvious ones are his lack of experience and limited development while at Wyoming. Those factors could not only set Allen up for failure, but also hinder his ability to protect himself against blitzing that much harder to anticipate than anything he faced in college. Otherwise, there are a stack of reasons that Allen could very well win the job in training camp. First, there is the minimal patience, externally and internally, that invariably comes with waiting to see what a prized first-round quarterback can do. In Allen's case, it is intensified by the Bills using the highest pick in their history to select him. Then, there is the fact he is far more physically impressive than either of the other quarterbacks. Allen's size, strength and athleticism have no match on the team and pretty much set him apart from the four other QBs chosen in the first round. His throwing motion is a thing of beauty, something that immediately caught the attention of Jim Kelly during rookie minicamp. He consistently delivers a tight spiral and his long passes leave his hand with a flick rather than a deliberate wind-up. “The arm strength that you (reporters) have seen here, that stands out," Beane said. "A lot of times it’s hard to tell that true arm strength on tape, but you can tell. The next step was watching him through the year (in college), and then going to see him play live. The great thing about seeing a guy play live at quarterback is, yes, I can see all the stuff that I can watch on film, but I can see all the stuff in pregame. How’s he interacting with his guys?" The easy conclusion for Beane and the rest of the Bills' decision-makers was that Allen had everything they could want in a franchise quarterback. Now, it's a matter of determining the right time for him to begin playing in games that count.

I'm going to put this bluntly why I don't think Shady's guilty... his character is like the equivalent of a self-involved player, in my opinion... he doesn't always do everything that's morally good, but he's not malevolent or out for blood in some well-schemed plan as this would have to be. That whole nightclub incident a few years ago would have appeared to be an incident that took place as a result of that whole personality. This one involved malevolence and planning and I just don't think that's what Shady is. Shady's the guy who throws a huge orgy party, not the guy who stalks his ex-girlfriend going to an orgy party and goes in to beat the crap out of her and the guy she's bangin. Just my opinion.