Logic

It would have been nice, but I wasn't losing sleep over it. I think he's more a "name" than anything at this point. Pushing 30 and coming off surgery, I didn't see him producing much more for the Bills than Trent Murphy. Now can we send one of next year's draft picks to the Texans for Clowney, please?!

That IS bold!

- Raiders win 10+ games and make the playoffs - Chiefs cannot duplicate last year's success, barely sneak in as a wild card with 9 wins - Lamar Jackson has a terrible year, Ravens have a losing season - Le'Veon Bell has a career worst season behind bad Jets o-line - Joe Flacco does poorly in Denver, Drew Lock starts 7+ games - Jimmy Garappolo does NOT have a very good season. John Lynch gets fired. 49ers are left wondering if they still need to find a franchise QB - Seahawks win NFC West - Cam Newton has a bad year, causing a "should they start Will Grier?" debate - Bruce Arians gets the Bucs back on track with 9 wins and a wild card playoff berth - Buffalo mother*****in Bills win 11 games

Dude only ever caught touchdowns.

Makes sense. Seahawks have a greater need than Bills, and Ziggy will get more playing time there.

??? I already find it to be quite well worth the money, but maybe that's just me.

This is why I love Bills fans. A 38-page thread about a third year wide receiver. What could still be being discussed on page 38 that hasn't been covered already? Crikey!

Has anyone voted for "I have to watch the tape" yet?

People always overlook "rosterability" when talking about drafting players. You should draft players that you think will actually make the roster. As I mentioned above, with four WR spots probably already taken and with Andre Roberts likely to take the 6th spot as a return specialist, it leaves probably ONE spot open. The Bills ALREADY have Ian McKenzie (former 5th round pick, has gadget versatility, and who the staff clearly likes) and Duke Williams (CFL's leading WR last year) vying for that spot. What are the odds that a 4th or 5th round WR would have beaten out these two guys? Last year, the Bills drafted two WRs just because they needed them: Ray Ray McCloud and Austin Proehl. How did that work out? You have to draft roster-able guys.

How did this even get to be a way of describing a hard working player? What is it about consistently bringing lunch to work that equates to work ethic? Isn't it equally possible that an extremely lazy player would still bring food for himself to eat every day? I just don't get it.

I didn't read through this thread at all. I just saw the title and immediately hit "reply" to say THIS: For "cliches to retire", I cast one thousand votes for "Brings his lunch pail to work every day".

Foster Brown Beasley Jones With those 4 guys likely being locked in at WR and with the Bills set to carry no more than 6 WRs maximum, one of whom will likely be return man Andre Roberts, and with useful players like Ian McKenzie and Duke Williams also vying for playing time....it's crazy to me that people are so put out about the Bills not drafting a WR5. They did, however, go out and get two UDFA WRs in Easley and Sills who, had they been drafted in the 5th round, would have received universal praise from Bills fans. I get wanting the Bills to draft a WR. I also get why they DIDN'T draft a WR, and I think anyone that got too bent out of shape about it is/was being silly. You can't just take a guy at a position just because you need one, and say value be damned. If you go by the "Best player available" strategy, which Beane has told us again and again he does, you begin to see that the best player left on the board each time the Bills picked was NOT a wide receiver. Go back and look at the Singletary pick and the WRs available at that time. Who should they have picked? Ditto the Knox pick. You could argue that they should've taken a guy in the 5th or 6th round, but at that point the odds that said player would have a substantial impact are low any way. And again, they got what many believed to be 5th/6th round caliber talent at WR via undrafted free agency in Sills and Easley.

Is it too late to take DK Metcalf with the 9th overall pick?

For those who still feel that Josh Allen needs more weapons or that the running back room needs more youth: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2834898-matt-millers-way-too-early-2020-nfl-draft-big-board?share=twitter#slide0 Matt Miller's way-too-early 2020 draft Big Board The 2020 NFL draft looks like a special one if your favorite team needs a running back or wide receiver. It might be a historic group in those positions once the evaluations are all wrapped up. The running back group is four deep with established, legit stars at the position. Wide receiver is loaded with maybe the best prospect I've ever evaluated (Jerry Jeudy) as well as household names like Tee Higgins, Laviska Shenault, CeeDee Lamb and Donovan Peoples-Jones. The rest of the draft? We're waiting to see how it plays out with some key players primed for breakout seasons and the surprise players to jump onto the scene—remember no one had Baker Mayfield or Kyler Murray as No. 1 overall picks the summer before their final seasons—but the early look is that this could be a down year for offensive line, defensive tackle and cornerback. Ranking players before the college football season has begun can be dangerous, but think of this as a prioritized watch list more than a set list of rankings.

I don't mean to be a wet blanket, but I predict Ansah signs elsewhere. Why? Well, the path to consistent snaps is greater elsewhere, and that's what Ansah needs on what will presumably be a one-year prove-it deal. In Buffalo, he'd be part of a heavy rotation and would likely split snaps about evenly with the Murphy/Lawson combo. In, say, Seattle or Tampa Bay, he might be the unquestioned, just about every-down starter at edge. Also, the need for an additional edge rusher in Buffalo simply isn't as high as it is for some other teams. As such, I'd expect other teams to be willing to pay more than what the Bills are willing to pay. Beane has shown that he sets a value to a player and sticks to it. He's not going to get into a bidding war over Ziggy Ansah.

Is it too late to use the 9th overall pick on him?

Wish him all the best. Oh, and while I'm here: Gruden is going to run the Raiders into the ground and they're going to be getting rid of him AND Mayock within the next three years, after which time a full bottoming out and rebuild will be necessary. Dark times ahead for the Raiders. I mean...did you SEE the three players they take with their three first round picks? Yikes. I like Gruden and Mayock a lot and I'm actually rooting for them. I hope I'm wrong about them in this instance, but I don't think I am.

I hear ya. The key, I think, is a good blend of motor and athleticism. If a player JUST has a high motor, well....he's Chris Kelsay. If a player has a high motor AND above average athleticism, he's Kyle Williams. Here's hoping Ed Oliver and Cody Ford and Devin Singletary and all the others are more like the latter.

I agree completely. Astro's list of visits, as well as any other info I could scare up in the pre-draft process, always linked the Bills to Singletary. I never saw ANYTHING linking them to Montgomery. Also, Devin Singletary's nickname is "Motor", so basic science dictated that Beane and McDermott HAD to draft him. They had no choice.

#29 is available, right? That's probably the best of the bunch. He wore #5 in college, so #25 seems logical. The only problem is, it's already taken for 2019. After that, though?

Thanks for posting. I'll say this: a lot of people -- myself included -- thought that the Bills actually wanted David Montgomery at running back but had to "settle" for Singletary after Montgomery was picked one spot ahead of them in the 3rd round. Now I'm not so sure. After hearing Beane's effusive praise of Singletary, and now hearing that they were one of the teams that showed the most interest in Singletary in the pre-draft process, I think he may have been the target all along. As a team that's gotten to watch LeSean McCoy juke defenders out of their shoes the past few years and believes that Singeltary shares some of those traits, the Bills probably weren't as scared off by Singletary's lack of home run speed as some other teams. They may have wanted Singletary whether Montgomery was on the board or not.

I think time will prove that he should have been. Entering 2018, there was talk of him being the #1 overall pick in the coming draft. A somewhat down season (by Oliver's lofty standards) and the "jacket incident" -- not to mention GMs overthinking his lack of size -- led him to fall. Thank goodness! The Bills will be reaping the benefits for years.

$200 on the over for me.