oldmanfan

Ok. Board if you have interviewed the QBs in the draft, please PM. Let's find out.

All right. Let's just stop and try again. And read this time. it is not about opinion, it is about fact. If people want to express their opinion fine. But when they make definitive statements about things when it is clear they cannot be made that is different. How many people here have actually interviewed the QBs? I would say it's pretty close to zero. Does that deny them an opinion? No. Does it mean the teams have more information to make decisions? Yes. Which was the point of the OP.

What percentage of folks on this board have interviewed the QBs in this draft?

I thought you were referring to the next season

It is definitive that none of us here have the kind of access to data that the teams do. That is a given I would think.

Or is it because you can't back up your statement? I would appreciate input from guys that have either coached or played the game at the pro or college level.

Richie and Groy both are I believe

I love opinion. I don't like people prentending their opinion is gospel and factual when it isn't.

So you are making a claim of fact you cannot substatiate. This is what I mean. And it's not just the firing. It is the constant we now can't get a QB. Do you want to discuss or cherry pick things to not provide context?

I am saying we all, including myself don't know squat compared to the front office. Go back and look at the OP. Do you think the people on this board have knowledge from extensive film study, from interviews with college coaches, from actually interviewing the players? Do people on this board have access to other team's offices to have conversations about trades? Do you actually think that? You claim there are people on the board that do? Who are they? It is not about opinion. It is about people categorically stating that we cannot now move up and get a QB. It is about people categorically stating Beane will get fired. It is about people claiming their views are gospel. I would love it actually if people expressed their opinions. But too many don't.

Because we don't as explained in the OP. If you think have more data than the guys that do this for a living and know what teams are saying to each other you're flat out wrong.

You would think with two kids ages 22 and 16 I'd know these things

It is exactly the opposite. The fun of a board is debating opinion. There are too many here who claim knowledge they have none of, claiming facts that are not facts.

If it went that way I'd go Rosen or Vea in a heartbeat

Got it. Another sign of aging - I can't figure out all these abbreviations.

OMF?

Bingo. And Whaley was actually pretty good at it in his day as well

This is what the scouts and front office people get paid for, finding under the radar guys that hopefully contribute

Regarding Mahomes why in the world do people just assume some kid out of a school that has never had a QB succeed in the league, a kid who many thought lacked footwork and ability to work under center, is going to be some great NFL QB? i wish they would have taken Watson and said so last year after the draft.

I indicated above there may be a few that have worked or coached at a higher level. The vast majority have not yet some think they know it all

Good points. To me it still comes down to whether the see a guy as THE guy. If so they'll move above the Jets and pay the price. The price of 2 would be more than 3 but guarantees getting your guy. The Jets have no such guarantee unless they're happy with 3 guys. It's just that, as you say in your first sentence, it is ridiculous

I appreciate your comments. There may be a few people here that played or coached at say a collegiate level. I would value such input. But the vast majority are armchair wannabe experts, would you not agree? The interview process is a major advantage the professionals have. And they simply have a ton more data, film or otherwise, plus a lot more experience that all do here.

I can promise you they think they know more than they do

I think they will move up to get one guy only if they think it is a guy they have to have. To go to 3 would be meaningless except as a bargaining chip to get to 1. Only 1 guarantees anything. If I'm Beane and I think there is a guy like that it would be dumb to spend all my capital to get to 3 right now. I wait till draft day and move then so no one can jump ahead of me. My guess is they may have several guys they think would be OK and not one they think is a can't miss type guy. So they will watch and move anywhere between 4-11 to get a guy or get him at 12 Look through the site. There are aseveral folks saying just that

If Beane wants to get to two he can. He can use picks to get to say 6 then package with 11 to get to 2. It all comes down to his evaluations.