oldmanfan

Who would you have brought in? Bradford? Hah! The FA available QBs were all about the same. And knowing they were going to draft a young guy no way they were going to spend huge dollars on someone like a Keenum.

Trading McCarron not a big deal to me. I thought he'd be the guy but showed nothing in preseason. But you can rightfully criticize for not getting the veteran backup in earlier.

OP: Do yourself a couple favors: 1. Look up who the playoff teams were last year 2. Suspend your Internet account so you can't post anymore

For sure one daughter and one niece

It doesn't right now. Consider the source.

I'll be there Sunday with wife, two daughters, two sisters in law and one of them brining my three nieces with her from Buffalo. And if I see Peterman run out on the field I'll lead the catcalls. I cannot imagine how Anderson does not start the game.

I hope you use better statistical analysis than used here.

You want to discuss regression analysis? You really want to go there? Young QBs tend to fluctuate, have good games and bad. The person I was responding to seemed to suggest progression involved game to game to game improvement. That's not necessarily the case.

But some of them have. People have shown you examples of guys with less than 60% rates that are successful QBs. And if I were to go through your site I'd find some over 60% who didn't. Your statement is simply wrong and ignores evidence right in front of you.

I've said before that statistics are thrown around inappropriately in sports, especially football. There are so many dependent and independent variables to throw into a proper analysis that simply looking at one number such as completion percentage rarely can be correlated to much of anything.

You realize if a guy throws 40 times a game (not far fetched for the college game) the difference between 60% and 56% is one pass, right? And that could be like one dropped ball. And statistically that's not really different.

If it's true all four rookie QBs will fail. They are all under that I believe right now. Is it your contention they will all fail?

He doesn't need surgery according to the reports. So your rant is now moot, as if blaming them for a guy hitting right on the elbow with his helmet wasn't cause enough for this to be moot.

I do not recall a single post (and back then it was the old BBMB site I was on) that cared about Goodwin leaving because he had lost so much time. Woods never even negotiated with the Bills, and the Bills knew he wanted to go back to the West coast. So it's revisionist to say now that we should have kept those guys. People complained about Hogan and Watkins too. You have the advantage of hindsight. GMs don't.

Sure there were.

I agree we won't see definitive progress till he has a better line and WR corps. But I am seeing good signs of progress.

I haven't watched the other guys much. I did watch Rosen for about a half two weekends ago, because he was the guy I was hoping they'd take. I saw him overthrow several guys, got happy feet a little in the pocket. Wasn't as on target as I thought he'd be. Did seem to be ahead o f Allen in terms of reads and getting the ball out on time. Bottom line: pluses and minuses like all young QBs.

I was tempted to say unethical as well, but chose not to. I see your point though.

That's what a sprain is, a slight tear to a ligament.

I looked at each passing play from Sunday's first half, and what I saw was that he was more accurate especially on short throws than he was earlier in the year. And he was getting the ball out quick and was more decisive, although that may have been related to play calls. I'm seeing him make moves in the right direction.

They could have Carr next year if they want. He was the golden boy, and now looks like he's on the way out of Oakland. Give Allen time.

I see your point. It 's just that you don't want to fuel unwarranted speculation.

I don't know. Terry Bradshaw? Jim Kelly? Carson Wentz? Phil Simms? Let's make it simple - pretty much any QB that comes into the league. They are all "raw" in terms of facing NFL defenses and their complexities.

Ok, anatomy professor time here. It's kind of ridiculous for this doc to try and diagnose what happened with Allen without actually seeing any data, such as the ligament test or the MRI. Taking a shot on the elbow like he did, and assuming it hit the ulnar nerve, he would have had trouble gripping the ball. The ulnar nerve supplies the muscles on the little finger side of the hand, and also sensation to that area. If those were knocked out then he would not have been able to grip the ball well. If the UCL was bruised, would have caused pain and also difficulty gripping. I read some where that he had range of motion after the game in the elbow. That would be reassuring. I think it's jumping the gun big time to presume a ligament tear of any significance, although the MRI will show that.

I see where you're coming from now. I would say he looks better in some ways even comparing to the Vikings game. The things folks are getting on him about are his ability to get pre-snap reads and go to a guy quickly, his pocket presence, and his accuracy particularly on short passes. I think he looked pretty good on all those Sunday. Now, that may be because the plays are calling for less reads. I don't know that; none of us would without knowing the play calls. But on most of his drop backs Sunday he looked like he knew right where he wanted to go with the ball and delivered it. That to me is progress. Other than the horrible first pass he either was putting the ball right on guys, or missing where it was a smart miss and where defenders could not make a play on the ball. He still needs to hang in the pocket longer on some throws. I think that will come with time. If what you are saying is that progress can only be defined as being better week 1, vs 2, then 2, vs 3, and so on, I would disagree. Young QB's will have ups and downs, good games and bad. Mayfield for example had a tough day this past Sunday, but I would not say he regressed. He just had a day that will happen with young QBs as they figure things out.