oldmanfan

Yes they did. Yes they had reasons. Which you don't like. And if they had done the opposite you'd complain they are paying guys too much money for player x.

Some here need to go back the last several years and read posts about Brown. McD needs a versatile MLB in his D. He got one who needs to learn more.

Good summary of the math. May go over some heads though.

So what? The kid unfortunately will likely screw up again and Belichick will show him the door

But enoughbto warrant the money? People have selectively short memories but Brown would get blasted routinely around here for making tackles 5-10 yards from scrimmage and not having the ability to cover. Edmunds has freakish athletic ability. And like Allen he's getting thrown in the deep end of the pool. Yet he isn't even given a chance by some to tread water let alone swim.

Ahem. Tredavius White. Dawkins. Starting CB and LT. Zay Jones. Starting WR. Josh Allen. Starting QB Edmunds. Starting MLB Phillips. Three man DT rotation. Johnson. Starting slot CB. All young, all starting, all learning, all should improve. Since Edmunds is being focused on, let me ask a question. On the second full day you had on your job (after your training sessions analogous to Edmunds preseason) were you perfect. Were you as good at your job that second day as you are now? Or did you improve as you gained experience? Be honest.

Money. Talent. They did not see Brown as being good enough at MLB. Would have cost the millions to resign him.

What Davis did was cowardly. As for Brown, he likely would have made more plays yesterday vs. a rookie in his second game. A year from now? Edmunds will do things Brown couldn't do ever.

The one I would say would stunt his growth is Cutler. A young QB does not need that kind of personality around him. At any rate, Beane and McD are very consistent in their thought process, and very careful what they say in public. One of the things they say is they are constantly looking for ways to improve the team. So they churn the roster up, and I for one hope that includes a more veteran backup QB.

LaCanfora yesterday said they are looking at options. Given it's LaCanfora it probably means they aren't. But they should be. Mybe some guys like Moore just are done and don't want the hassle.

What happened with Cleveland? They got a lot of guys. Free agents go to teams for different reasons. Most for money, some to say play with a young up and coming QB? Regardless, my read on Beane and McD with regard to FA is that they will use the cap dollars they have to build in multiple areas, and not try to make just 2-3 huge signings. Similar to the Hyde/Poyer type guys. If they spend big, it might be on an OT or perhaps an edge rusher. But I see maybe a half dozen or more free solid signings as opposed to the big splash types. For the glamour positions, they'll build through the draft. And if you look at the last two drafts you see a QB, MLB, CB, LT' slot CB, return guy/slot WR. And please don'ts tart with the stuff about failures, etc. based on 1-2 games with the QB and MLB. They have gotten rid of guys that were cap problems and/or not earning their salary under the cap. Doesn't mean they get off the hook for the atrocious two first halfs these first two games. But we'll see.

That last sentence. Are you referring to your post?

Eric Wood retired because he was told if he didn't he risked permanent paralysis. What are you talking about? Oops, misread. Never mind.

Yep. And teams hurting at safety kick themselves in the head for not signing Poyer or Hyde. Ad infinitum

The legitimate question for Terry would be why the team seemed unprepared the first half of each game. I'd ask that if I were him.

Good point. Next year they have 80 million and not too many of our one to sign or are worth signing. They have ammo then; let's see if they use it correctly.

His first draft for Beane looks good. The one that was Whaley/McBeanwas pretty good. They need to hit on better FA choices.

All the arguing about who they kept, should have kept, blah, blah, blah is just Monday morning QBing. Some of the same folks being critical today would have been critical if they had kept certain guys and would be complaining they aren't worth their salaries, etc. Which is why fan is short for fanatic; some folks just get irrational and it's impossible to reason with an irrational individual. Where I would be asking questions if I were Terry is with the two first halves of the first two games. In both cases it seemed clear to me that the other team was both much more well prepared, and more eager to play. Yesterday rivers had his way with the D, almost as if he was calling the D against his own offense. That failure of preparation is clearly on the coaching staff, and that merits questions from the owner.

I think you can fairly criticize the current regime for some of these. Gaines now looks like a bad move considering the cowardly thing Davis just did. And I said yesterday I was puzzled by the Kerley thing. Others you can't be as critical of. I don't think Woods was going to sign in free agency; the fact that they never made a serious move to sign him was a signal to me that they knew Woods wanted to move along. And Goodwin? Sorry, but that's revisionist history. He could not stay on the field here. And then guys like Gilmore were really Whaley's issue before the current regime could do much. Looking at all the moves I would like to have Gaines still here. Maybe Darby. I might have looked at other assets to trade Cincy other than Glenn, but then again they needed O line help and Glenn was hurt essentially all last season, with a big cap hit to boot. I don't think I would have given a third for Benjaming given his nonchalance lately; I always liked Sammy and would have liked to see him stay but he had his own issues as well. And Dareus I can't blame them for at all; so many coaches, Kyle, etc. could not get through to the kid. I would have looked for an edge rusher elsewhere and not given Murphy a contract even though it's a very temporary hit. So some of the moves they've made to stay competitive this year haven't panned out as well as they'd like, and that's on them. Going forward, they have to make sure they draft well (they did this year) and pick the right FAs.

Writing in caps is just childish. They want to compete short and long term. The moves they made are not contradictory. To compete long term they knew they needed a young franchise-like QB and a leader for their D. They made moves to get them in this draft. They knew they wanted to take their cap hit completely and get it over with. They did that. You keep harping on Kerley and Holmes as if those are definitive proof of something. Kerley I suspect will bounce on and off the roster for the year. Holmes is not as good or bad as any other #4 receiver and is a guy they count on for special teams. Quit acting like a child, read what other people offer, and answer them instead of just writing the same rants (and in capitals no less as if that means anything).

They are not completely tearing it down and rebuilding. They said last year they have short term and long term goals. They do this year as well. They can't get rid of every veteran, and it doesn't mean every young kid plays before a vet is they think the vet is better. This year will be a longer year because e they have a rookie QB that is learning, and a rookie MLB that is learning. Plus they need to improve their lines (and there I would say the young guys like Teller should get their shot sooner vs. later). You are so busy trying to make snarky comments you don't actually read. They have a lot of work to do, as I've outlined in other posts this morning. And their plan will necessitate good personnel decisions. As does the plan of every other team in the league.

Lou Saban will always top the list

Last year the HC and GM said they were not going to sacrifice short term for long term, and they were right. They got to the playoffs. This season should be no different. But they have to address some gaping issues, including the O line interior and why they got off to such a terrible start on D in both games. They have some young guys like Edmunds who need to learn I get that, but then at least be aggressive with your D calls. Try and take the game to the other team instead of the other way around. It will be really interesting to see if McD calls the defensive signals the entire game next week.

Quit being an ass. It was his first game. He did make mistakes but not because he looked scared. Like all young QBs the fame needs to slow down. You're just being a jerk to be a jerk now.

They're ripping the band aid off quickly rather than slowly. I liked what I saw from Allen; no deer in the headlights look. Foster and Jones made plays. Edmunds had a tough day but a learning experience. No one will throw at White. Milano looked pretty good. So they have young pieces to build around. That said, McD and Beane have challenges. Short term, McD has to figure out why his team comes out so far behind the 8 ball. Is it his coordinators? Especially Frazier? What about Castillo? Does he need to change anyone? Do they need to bring in another backup QB to help Allen? They need to scour other rosters to get some more DBs. And linemen perhaps? How long do you go with guys on the interior of the O line that are struggling like they're struggling? Long term they have a plan. I'm OK with the plan. They have their QB, MLB, star CB, safeites, LT. But the success of their plan will depend on just how good they are at picking the right guys in the draft and FA. Draft they look pretty good so far, FA not as much. But they were limited by cap space to go after top FAs. Like any organization they'll rise and fall by these decisions.