oldmanfan

So you're getting all upset because they traded a guy who's a backup, and now have another backup? Everyone agrees they should have brought a guy in when they traded McCarron. But they did give McCarron a chance. And as Beane said he wasn't the guy they thought he'd be. So the mistake was not to get say Anderson in earlier. But he's here now. Do you honestly think McCarron would be so much better? Based on what?

That was with Jacksonville. Last year with the Bills he wasn't that good. Why did the light go on? Maybe getting traded woke him up. Maybe Marrone and Coughlin laid it on the line and told him he had one shot to make his mark. I just don't think we missed him much. Our run D went down a bit but the team still made the playoffs last year. And the D this year has really hit its stride. Sometimes trades are good for both sides.

I differ on your opinion on Dareus last year. He was the highest paid player and did not come close to earning it. Also look at other comments above.

He was not one of the best players. And a discipline problem. And your highest paid player can't be that guy. True best players like a Jordan or Byrd or Brady bust their ass as hard in practice as in games. They demand the best from themselves and their teammates. Do you honestly think Dareus was that kind of guy? You mention Taylor. Taylor had a ton of off field issues but when he was in the field there was never a question that he was killing himself. And I'l just sit here and have a little laugh about Hernandez.

That means he was late. Also late to meetings if reports are correct. And so on.

Bills 16-13. Luck is going to get buried by the D.

Crap. Unadulterated pure crap. And nonsense besides. Dareus is the one that was showing up late to mettings, games, etc. He tried to work with him - remember the pictures of him with Dareus one on one in the practice field? Had maybe the most professional guy on the team in Kyle right next to him? Yet Dareus would not straighten up. The highest paid guy on the team, and he would not straighten up. So they traded him. And brought in Star this year. And have you checked how the D is doing lately? The truly laughable thing here is to say since Dareus McD has been losing ever since. Maybe you missed it but they made the playoffs last year.

I think they will be significantly improved in offense. And I think we could see a new O line coach

Right. They have like 90 million and 10 picks to do so

Ok. Keep saying the same thing. I would have liked to see Sammy still here. Woods from different reads wanted to get back to the West coast. And Goodwin showed little if anything when he was here.

I think there is universal agreement they should have brought a vet in when they trade McCarron

True. They have cleared a ton of cap space and have a ton of picks. They're in position. I think they'll bring in guys like Poyer. Won't spend tons on any one guy.

He said the Bills consistently suck. They made the playoffs last year. That's a main thing that has to happen to win a SB. This year lost some linemen and have their rookie QB starting out. Step back to take ten steps forward.

List the playoff teams from last year

I read an si article by Breer. Thinks the Eagles will not try to sign him after this year. At any rate CB is hardly an issue right now.

Yep. Maybe 3-3 vs. 2-4.

I agree. This must be the fiftieth time this week I've said they should have brough a veteran in when they traded McCarron. The plan was McCarron would start and Allen watch. But Peterman beat NcCarton out. As for the O line and WR, they want to clear cap space and Richie going nuts hurt.

Because Peterman beat him out in preseason.

Except of course drafting their guy for the future.

The one thing they could have done differently was bring in a different veteran FA QB vs. McCarron. And yet again I will state they should have done so when they traded McCarron. Now, would that have changed this season much? I don't think so. Peterman played well in preseason and got his shot. That would not have changed. Then it would have been Allen or whoever the third guy would have been - maybe Anderson. Would that have changed our record either way? I doubt it. Let's say Anderson was brought in earlier. Would people be howling to start Allen, that you can't win with a guy like Anderson? Of course.

Go back and really watch his plays last game.

Correct. My OP is hypothetical. I think in the end, as far as the season record, nothing much would be different. And now we have a vet that will play and the rookie will watch and learn as many wanted to begin with. Actually Mc Carron looked bad. I think it was the third preseason game? Against starters? First half, he did nothing. Absolutely nothing. Which surprised me because I though he'd be the perfect guy to play while Allen was learning.

You are in fact proving you don't read. I have said a number of times their mistake was not bringing in a guy when they traded McCarron. Just emphasized it again above. And what do you argue here? That they should have done exactly what I said they should have done. You think it would have made a bigger difference then me. Reading is fundamental.

You are talking to folks that get upset when Starbucks takes more than 2 minutes to give them their foo foo coffee.

You are another person in this board who does not read well. I said specifically that they made a mistake not bringing a guy in when they traded McCarron. Specifically. Multiple times now in fact. I don't think who the guy was mattered much as all the vets available were pretty much the same guy. Would that have changed much though? My opinion is no. I think Peterman would have started game 1 and we would have lost. I don't think we win game 2 regardless or the Pack game with any second string guy. Maybe Sunday we would have, true. So maybe 3-3 vs 2-4. Ultimately our record doesn't change much if at all. Allen got a few games under his belt and showed some progress, despite those who seem to think he hasn't because their mind is already made up on him. Now he'll watch a vet play for a few games and pick up what he can. So all this doom and gloom about totally mismanaging things comes down to, maybe, one more victory and having Allen play a few games. And arguments can be made both ways aboutbthe rookie playing. So I think this stuff is overblown.