oldmanfan

Everyone here thinks they know who the best QB is going to be. I'lll take Beane and his scouts

I said off the top of my head. and I am not arguing teams don't need a good QB. I would simply say no one knows who if any of the guys in this draft will be one.

Flacco off the top of my head

And if his QB is Jackson? Just stop with this firing stuff. They are making good moves thus far for a team that made the playoffs.

Perhaps insanity was too much.

Could throw Flacco in there.

I would argue that claiming a GM will be fired before anything is ve done yet qualifies.

A breath of sanity in a sea of insanity

I know I trust Beane more than I would Macagnan.

Define strong play

To me the more likely move is to 4 with Cleveland. Again it all depends on their board for QB and none of us have any idea.

How many times does it have to be explained to you that the data shows about 50% of top QB picks don't pan out? I don't think anyone doubts they're drafting a QB this year. It's which one and at what spot. And st the risk of deflating your ego, they know more than you do about which guy may be best. Unless he turns out to be right. Which is the problem with this entire thread. No one knows.

What if he really likes Rudolph? He'll be there at 12. Just as an example.

You don't know who they like, nor do I, nor does anyone else here. Up till this morning everyone has liked what Beane has done. And now because another team makes a trade Beane is a bum? Come on. He is in position to do whatever he thinks is the right thing for the franchise. Let him do his job instead of assuming a bunch of stuff.

The one they want. If the one they want is one they can get at 12, then it would be dump to trade up.

I would point out again that Foles, Keenum and Bortles were starters in the championship games. Maybe it's an outlier, maybe it's a trend.

Broadly recognized? Really? Read all the crap around here the last month and on other sites and each of these top 6 guys get ripped to shreds.

You can say the same if they had moved to 3, or stay at 12, or draft a kid at 2/.

Then they're not locked out because they could do that. What is wrong with people today?

IF the Jets get the right guy. IF. Why do so many here think there is a sure fire guy in this draft? IF Beane thinks there is, I suspect he'll go get him. If not and he thinks the six guys at the top are equal then he gets one where he is. No one knows who the best guys will be yet. Clearly none of them are like a Luck or Manning or Elway. Quit assuming they are.

It is not a crises. Too many people go way over the top.

Not at all. See my next post. Happy to debate but if you're going to get offended and use cursing and stuff it's more your issue.

I really do see a trend coming though. There are so many guys coming out where their game and the pro game don't mesh. So you need really good coaching to maximize what you get at the QB spot and a balance in all areas. To me Daboll is more important than which QB we draft.

Then you missed a really thorough well considered post. Facts are stubborn things but I've already pointed that out to you

College and graduate level statistics. That may have been an outlier but may also signal an emerging trend. Stats also say about 50% of high pick QBs don't work out.