oldmanfan

30-6 Patriots. As much as I hate to call it that way. Belicheat will make Foles try to beat them through the air, and he won't. Rookie SB coach against the GOAT. And Brady will shred a supposedly good defense.

Jacksonville has the best D in the league. In Luck's tenure at the Colts the D has uniformly stunk. Comparing Luck to Bortles based on their team records vs. what they actualy do as QB is like comparing a Ferrari to a VW Beetle. IF Luck is available and IF after exhaustive medical testing it is determined he's healthy the Bills would be insane to not make the trade.

Interesting

I highly doubt this happens. And you'd have to be absolutely sure his shoulder is healed before thinking about it. and I highly, highly, highly doubt anyone in this board has some source that can give them any information of any value.

Who is this Eliot guy?

They certainly can use upgrades at spots. So can any team in the league. To say they're not really a playoff team when they were just in the playoffs denies reality. It would be worth it if the guy they get pans out. We don't know that yet. Unlike some here, if they give up these picks and the guy doesn't work out I will not retrospectively roast them for doing so.

They are a playoff team because they made the playoffs.

They may decide to release guys that they don't feel add to the overall talent base, and that they think can be replaced with younger talent. But they also have two other factors to consider: 1. They have a playoff team. Dismantling a playoff team doesn't make much sense. 2. They still need guys in leadership roles, and if Kyle retires losing him and Wood would have big leadership effects. So releasing all your vets wouldn't make much sense from a leadership perspective.

Why would you think this? We have no idea out of these guys who is going to wind up any good anyway. The idea of it being a disaster is overblown to me. Even under the best of circumstances first round QBs work out 50% of the time. None of these guys is a Luck or Elway type. I am sure Beane and his staff are doing extensive work on these guys. If they see a guy they feel they have to have I see them moving up to get him. And then all you can do is hope it works out. To use your terminology, what would be a bigger "disaster"? Using a ton of picks to move up and get your top guy, and not have him pan out? Or getting say the 4th guy you like, saving picks, and not have him work out? It's a gigantic crap shoot when all is said and done.

I don't see it myself, but Arians does have a little more experience in the field.

Where would you cap things? If one game is enough to cut a guy, why not one half? One quarter? How about the minute you make a bad play you get cut? You' d have to expand rosters to about 200 players but it would apparently make wishes of some fans come true. A young QB needs time to develop. Huh. Never would have thought of that. We'll see what he does next preseason and if he isn't improving he may lose his job.

Then don't renew. Get over yourself. One unsubstantiated report about Cousins and all of a sudden it's they're not getting a QB. Beane has said in a number of occasions a QB is a priority. See what he does and quit looking for excuses to blindly bash them. Exactly. And again I encourage everyone to read the recent article on Cousins in si. He is all about process, and reading it all I could think was how much in sync he'd be with McD

Maybe the agent is trying to drive the price up

We will see what happens. He'll get overpaid, as every QB in the league not named Brady or Rogers do.

I look at it as if we're playing poker. If I'm holding a solid hand, I don't try to draw to a higher hand and sacrifice the hand I have. So if (a perhaps big if) we can get Cousins, that's a solid hand. Trying to draw to a higher hand by trading a bunch of picks for a kid that may or may not make it loses me chips in the long run. It just comes down to how you feel about the guys in this draft. Too many people here keep harping on how we haven't drafted a guy high and it's time to o so. That's not the point. It's drafting the right guy, not just drafting a guy. If there was a Luck or a guy like that, I'd bee all in on trading as many picks as needed to move up. But does anyone seriously think Darnold or Rosen or Allen are that guy? I sure don't.

He'll get money from whomever. HE also wants to win. Read the si article and see what he talks about. If you look at teams in the market right now we are the team best poised to win. All we need is a QB.

I have posted this several times in different threads, but go read the recent si article on Cousins. He is all about process. As much as McD if not more so. It would be a great match of HC and QB. Plus if you look at the other options, we are the only playoff team in the market for a QB, unless Jacksonville decides to move on from Bortles. And Cousins has said his main goal is a winning franchise.

It comes down to whether you think one of these kids coming out is the guy. And history tells us there's a 50:50 shot at best. I don't see any of them being all that and a bag of chips. So give me Cousins, and I build around him, in part by using all the picks I have this draft.

He likes the guy they're brining in more than the guy he had. Simple.

People saying to move on from one game are the same ones who have a hissy fit if they have to wait in the drive through for more than two minutes to get their Happy Meal. Let the kid learn from that, work on his game in the offseason, and see what he does in camp. Doesn't mean you don't trade for Cousins or make a move in the draft to get one of the top guys.

Go get him

Winning is a good thing

Couple thoughts. One is that Beane has made it abundantly clear that they are in on finding a QB that is that long term starter/franchise/pick your adjective guy. He has also been clear they want to build through the draft. So adding those up, you get two potential answers. One is if they see a 10 year guy in FA they'll grab him and keep as many picks as they can. The second is if they think the 10 year guy is in the draft they'll move to get him. So it really becomes a question of priority. If they think a guy is can't miss, my gut is I think we'll see them sell out the farm even if Beane sees as his priority picks vs. QB. But my second gut feeling is they won't feel any of these guys in the draft is that kind of difference maker. Enter Cousins. I keep coming back to the recent SI article about him, and if you read it you can't help but think he and McD are a perfect match. Each all about process, each immersed in the intangibles so important for a team. And he'd come to a playoff team that could have gone farther for lack of a QB (all due respect TT). Some talk about money and cap space etc. and how Cousins may want 25-30 million a year, he'd be overpaid etc. All true except I'd argue that other than Brady and Rogers all veteran QBs are overpaid. It's the price of NFL football; you pay your QB and then fill in elsewhere. So considering all this, I'd put my money and confidence in Cousins vs. some unknown draft pick. You have a guy for probably ten years that is an above average QB in the league, that may have room to improve. Add pieces around him (I'm always a proponent of building the lines because you win up front). Continue to build on the defense's solid overall year last year. Use your accumulated draft picks. Make smart FA choices like last year. And move forward now vs. hoping for a young QB to pan out. Don't let the hope of great be the enemy of good to very good.

Sign him to a long term deal. He's an above average QB you can win with, provided you put a team around him. Quit dreaming that the next Brady is out there. He's not.

I was going to comment but review of the thread makes it clear the OP has no interest in fact