teef

happy birfday!

you holding?

you know that dude has sleep apnea.

meh.

calm down dr. saltenstein.

i swear i think they absorbed water.

we used bread bags. kept my feet nice and dry while wearing moon boots.

this is where i'm at with it. what he did wasn't good, but it's something you can come back from, and after a few years without trouble, i'm sure most will have moved on from it.

as i've mentioned before, i always felt he took too many deep chances on 3rd and manageable. i'm not sure if there's stats to back that up, but far too often allen seemed to be going for the big play, even when not necessary. there's work to do, but he certainly strikes me as a guy that will put in whatever work it takes.

it wasn't stone, but i think they did play together.

you'd be surprised! i'm actually extremely lucky when it comes to the in laws. when they're in town, i even tend to spend more time with them than my own family. hell, my sister in law married a wealthy guy who recently gave me a rolex as a thank you.

what if i'm the dirtbag, and everyone has to deal with me?

money and babies...they encompass the world's evil.

ohhhh! now i'm even more curious.

can i answer for scottlaw? because i'm pretty sure i know his answer.

you can't strut in here, hint at a potentially awesome story, and just leave us hanging. we need some facts.

i personally think longevity should absolutely be factored in. to have an outstanding career over a decade in the nfl is an amazing accomplishment. who knows how quickly others would have burned out.

i'm into this.

i think this was a huge part of it too.

rice was a dominant wr1 all of his career. edelman was not. jerry rice helped make his qbs. edelman was not. i understood the analogy, i just didn't love it. i was a bit surprised when TD got in, but i understood it. when he was healthy, TD was arguably the best at his position. edelman was never that. i think the win and the mvp are so fresh that it's causing a reaction. not to take anything away from edelman, but he's just not a hof guy. if he ends up getting in, i won't be upset, but i will question the criteria.

ok...don't you think that jerry rice did a few nice things during the regular season too? that's a terrible analogy. jerry rice, because of the player he was for years, elevated the 49ers, and was a major reason for even going to the playoffs. on the pats, it would have been edelman or someone else they replaced him with. it's been done many times by the pats. to even compare the two is insane.

never say never i suppose. but besides catches, doesn't total yards matter? he'd have to play longer than a few seasons to catch up. to me, hall of famers should be guys that their team can't do without. if he wasn't on the pats, i don't think their dominance would be any less. they would have plugged and played another guy into that roll, and life would go on. his numbers in the playoffs are huge because he's there all the time. being on the pats alone plumps up those numbers. not to take anything way from his play in the playoffs, because he deserved the mvp many times over. he's been a game changer in some important game absolutely, but that's not who he has been over his entire career. shouldn't that be who the hof is reserved for? agreed. this was the point i was trying to make as well.

i suppose it's just a question of whether post season play can get you in. i don't think it's even that his regular season stats are good enough that his playoff stats will push him over the top. it would be mostly based on the post season, which he was fantastic in. terrell davis also had huge numbers during the season. didn't have have over 2000 yards one year? the guy was a game changer all year round. edelman isn't nearly as much if at all.