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you can't strut in here, hint at a potentially awesome story, and just leave us hanging. we need some facts.

i personally think longevity should absolutely be factored in. to have an outstanding career over a decade in the nfl is an amazing accomplishment. who knows how quickly others would have burned out.

i'm into this.

i think this was a huge part of it too.

rice was a dominant wr1 all of his career. edelman was not. jerry rice helped make his qbs. edelman was not. i understood the analogy, i just didn't love it. i was a bit surprised when TD got in, but i understood it. when he was healthy, TD was arguably the best at his position. edelman was never that. i think the win and the mvp are so fresh that it's causing a reaction. not to take anything away from edelman, but he's just not a hof guy. if he ends up getting in, i won't be upset, but i will question the criteria.

ok...don't you think that jerry rice did a few nice things during the regular season too? that's a terrible analogy. jerry rice, because of the player he was for years, elevated the 49ers, and was a major reason for even going to the playoffs. on the pats, it would have been edelman or someone else they replaced him with. it's been done many times by the pats. to even compare the two is insane.

never say never i suppose. but besides catches, doesn't total yards matter? he'd have to play longer than a few seasons to catch up. to me, hall of famers should be guys that their team can't do without. if he wasn't on the pats, i don't think their dominance would be any less. they would have plugged and played another guy into that roll, and life would go on. his numbers in the playoffs are huge because he's there all the time. being on the pats alone plumps up those numbers. not to take anything way from his play in the playoffs, because he deserved the mvp many times over. he's been a game changer in some important game absolutely, but that's not who he has been over his entire career. shouldn't that be who the hof is reserved for? agreed. this was the point i was trying to make as well.

i suppose it's just a question of whether post season play can get you in. i don't think it's even that his regular season stats are good enough that his playoff stats will push him over the top. it would be mostly based on the post season, which he was fantastic in. terrell davis also had huge numbers during the season. didn't have have over 2000 yards one year? the guy was a game changer all year round. edelman isn't nearly as much if at all.

ehhhhhhh. again, this wasn't just my opinion about edelman. it was the people who actually vote on the inductions that thought the idea was insane. post season stats alone will not get you in. that's what edelman has. he's an amazing wr who stepped up in a huge way when he had to. so did joe flacco. neither should be in the hall.

i'm going to meet him someday, and it will be glorious. i'm going to make up a list of things i hate and anger me, so we have something to talk about.

this has nothing to do with "kool aid" or the pats. get over it. i don't know why people don't understand this. it's an entire career that get you in.

he'll need far more than that. the guy has barely cracked 1000 yrd twice. there's guys like issac bruce who are still waiting to get in, and he's had what, 10,000 yards more than edelman. he's just not that great of a player day in and day out to be a hof'er.

no he doesn't. post season accomplishment won't get you in on their own. the only reason his numbers are so good in the post season is because the pats go constantly. i'm willing to bet hogan's numbers aren't terrible in the post season either. it's easier for most of us to know you're wrong, and just accept it.

it has zero to do with the jersey. it's you who wants to push that nonsense narrative. again, it's what you do again and again in the regular season. he's numbers aren't even in the ball park. this isn't my opinion. there was a talk on just this on sirius nfl. the men who actually vote on the hof inductions thought it was absurd that this was even being brought up. look at his entire body of work. it's not a hof career, even if he has been great in the playoffs.

he's on the pats. they go on the regular. the mvp is great, but his entire body of work isn't hof material. maybe you just don't understand what it takes to get in.

he's not at all. HOFers are made during the regular season year after year, capped off by good playoff runs. they guy doesn't have close to hall of fame numbers, and as mentioned before, he could play another 10 years and may not. as good as he is, he doesn't deserve to be in this conversation. if the wasn't on the pats, he wouldn't even be in this conversation.

gross.

unfortunately not. i don't think anyone minds a bit of ball busting, but what happened on the bbmb was over the top. besides...who has time like that on their hands?

i couldn't get over it. it was all i could see.

as fans, we appreciate everything you do!

you can pick any of tom's dildos that you find appealing.

i lived in buffalo when i went to grad school. my friend lived right off hertel, and after a night of drinking, suggested we go to the colony. i thought he was joking that there was a strip club around the corner. he sure wasn't. don't get kicked off this board like you did the other. you remember what happened.

i didn't know if using that term would be too pornish. i wanted to though.