JohnBonhamRocks

No Thomas Jr.? I feel like Allen was at his best with Diggs, Brown, and/or Sanders as “boundary” WRs. Do you see them similarly to the 4 prospects you listed? Or closer to Gabe? Fair enough. Obviously Tyreek is one of one, but what about Worthy makes you think he might struggle at the next level? On the McConkey/Diggs comparison, how do you factor in that the latter was a 5th round pick?

When you say the production simply has not been there against man coverage, is that re: the Bills WRs recently or re: Samuel? If the latter, then how do you reconcile that statement with Harmon’s stats showing he consistently beats man? FWIW, the single most important trait for a WR prospect, to me, is the ability to separate and do it quickly, be it against man or zone.

Curious whether you think Worthy and McConkey can or cannot be effective from the outside

Is there something other than size and being “boundary WRs” that sets those guys apart?

Which top WR draft prospects do you think are not redundant and would add that extra dimension?

Would be happy with either and about 50/50 but I’m almost leaning McConkey for his route running

Worthy is my favorite in the second tier, but I would be happy with McConkey, Thomas Jr., or Mitchell at 28, too. Agreed if it is Worthy or McConkey, then I hope they double dip and try for Gabe 2.0 in round 4 or 5.

I want a top WR prospect but the whole thing about this class is how deep WR is so trading up is likely poor value, even with how good the top 3 are projected to be. Much likelier imho that we trade up once again ahead of the Cowboys if a WR we really like is there at 23. (We’ll see who has that pick by Draft weekend, but seeming unlikely it will remain the Vikings.) Maybe we jump the Jaguars up to 16 with Seattle but even that price is likely too steep for a GM who seems hell bent on fielding a younger cost-controlled team.

Franklin over Mitchell or McConkey?

I don’t live in Texas, but I have eyes, and he definitely has a diverse route tree, is a skilled route runner, and plays tougher and bigger than his size. Guys like him do succeed in the NFL and are named, for example, Davonte Smith, DeSean Jackson, Zay Flowers, John Brown, Tyreek Hill, Will Fuller, Antonio Brown, Cole Beasley, TY Hilton, Emmanuel Sanders, Darnell Mooney, etc. If we take Worthy and try to turn into a contested catch slot guy, then that would be on the OBD suits.

This plus there is speculation he was only down to 165 to try to get the 40 record.

I’d take 9.5 sacks like he got last year but hey maybe that’s just me

Jordan Phillips vibes

This. Also I wonder much Ogbah will get.

Worthy!!!

Seems the Titans got a bargain

Also cool that he said he watches a lot of Hyde tape and models his game after that

My only solace in making a last minute pivot to picking Kentucky for Final Four is someone else in my pool picked them to win it all…

Nah, let’s get Lawyer Milloy

Yes and Edwards caught it.

Another guy who allows the Bills to better disguise what they are doing

From 2020 Draft Profile Overview Toohill's a tricky projection based upon his issues stopping the run, but he has great flashes as a pass rusher. His body type may not be fully finished and additional play strength would be crucial considering his inability to anchor and shed against run blocks. His rush is much less effective against stronger tackles, but he's a decent athlete and hints at rush skill that has room for development. He's currently caught between a 3-4 OLB and 4-3 DE. If he can become bigger, stronger and more polished as a rusher, he might make sense as a backup edge with sub-package talent as a wide-9 technique. Strengths Possesses NFL frame ready to take on additional muscle mass. Posted 11.5 tackles for loss and eight sacks in first year as full-time starter. Length to overtake stutter-stepping runners from backside. Fluid and athletic when playing downhill. Upfield rush bolstered by snap quickness. Active hands work to displace punch and attack resets. Bend and agility to bend the top of the rush. Pass rush has a second gear to close. Lays the lumber into quarterbacks every shot he gets. Has two career blocked extra points. Weaknesses Doesn't use hands to take charge at point of attack. Unable to anchor down and hold the edge. Struggles to come unglued from blocks. Sputters to recover once he's behind during engagements. Leggy and lethargic with lateral slides to close down gaps. Doesn't hit speed to conversion effectively as rusher. Rush counters are telegraphed. Redirect blocks tap his brakes when attacking the edge. Not athletic enough for spot drops in coverage.

Way too Falcony but like the horn looking design near the shoulder.