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Steelers game was way bigger than Cowboys. They wanted to win in Dallas on Thanksgiving, they NEEDED to win in Pitt.

Yes that's why we were never re-signing Phillips, and I said as much right during midseason when he was racking up sacks...not a scheme guy, just a byproduct

LMAO we played the league MVP this year

Interesting...so the fact that the Cowboys had injuries to both safeties, Jaylon Smith, and LVE who didn't even play as opposed to a healthy and far superior Steelers defense that was playing lights out at that point means nothing to you vis a vis Allen's performances, respectively.

If you weren’t wowed by the whole team against Pitt, Allen included, in that situation...I don’t know what to tell you. That game was massive.

This defense hasn’t been carved up in a long time

Just listen to what I tell you and everything will be ok

It's actually a function of the overall defense and not a problem at all. A 'simple' defensive line scheme allows our LBs to read assignments quickly re:gap vs rush and keeps underneath clean on pass downs. The defense is only DB-centric because we picked up Hyde/Poyer. There's more talent right now in the secondary, which is why McDermott leans on it more than the other units. But he's always going to find pieces that work and plug them in and adjust accordingly. It's not as if his defenses were always predicated on a strong secondary...he got NFL starter-level play out of Tre Boston and Bene Benwickerie for christsake. Historically, McD has needed 3 things to run a top defense- a Pro Bowl level corner, a crazy athletic MLB, and a 1tech DT willing to play gap control. The rest he can adjust scheme to fit pieces.

He also made a huge stop in the backfield, injured himself, came back in and almost won that game (the biggest game of the year up to that point) singlehandedly. White makes big plays. Anyone who wants to pay Milano before him lmfao good luck with that

Not according to preliminary data from New York state https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/16/health/coronavirus-asthma-risk.html

Milano lmao

I would guess that McCaffrey and White's impact on the spread is just about equal. And I definitely am not calling CMC 'average'.

My issue with the idea is twofold: replacement value on average of RB vs DB and their relative importance to how the team functions. We know the Bills are currently built defense-first and while it's true that McDermott can get results from average defensive talent, his defenses have traditionally relied on a top performing DB (White now, Norman previously) as counterweight to his defensive line scheme and allows LBs to cheat a little in coverage toward the opposite field. I don't believe our current defense can be run without a top DB. Thus, the gap in replacement value of White v another DB is >>> than McCaffrey v Singletary imo. All things being equal, I stand by my post that you'd rather have your best player be a defensive back than running back.

It's way less of a problem than your best player being an RB.

Would be interested in knowing who you consider the top 3 to be then.

You really outdid yourself here.

^yep let’s pack it in lmfao Couldn’t have asked for a better summary

lol keep spinning

So you didn't mean this I assume.

Yards Don't overthink it

Just say you expect him to be a finished product by the end of Year 2 so you can justify dumping him after his third year in the pros. Then we can stop having this conversation.

Allen was, in a solid QB class, a near consensus top10 lock. Absolutely nothing like the the players you mentioned. He had (and has) all the physical tools. The knock was how raw he was. So he comes out his rookie year showing all the flaws he carried from Wyoming and a lot of the gifts that got him drafted @7th overall, then follows it up w/a sophomore campaign that improved nearly across the board...and people are mad at what exactly? That his development appears to be right on schedule? FFS the kid said this as a junior in college- “The NFL will be there,” Allen says a day later. “I don’t want to be the guy that gets drafted in the first round, plays four years and then is out of the league. I want to be a guy that plays 15 years with the same organization and be one of the best quarterbacks to ever play the game.’’ But 2020 will definitely be the year that decides it for everyone lol right

The majority of posters IN THIS THREAD ALONE are the ones who, if you read back through the thread on draft day, were in their feels 1000% about 'wrong josh/right josh' They were wrong then, they're still wrong now. They won't acknowledge it. It's time to just let it play out and they'll either eventually have to change their tune or just pretend they were on board all along.

Maybe @SDS can provide some data on site traffic for the 'nobody rejoices when Allen fails' argument Anecdotally it does not wash in the slightest