GoBills808

You're good w/Allen ranked 3rd QB in the division?

bUt LoOk aT hOw ThAt HoRsE iS wEaViNG

God forbid Bills fans prefer their QB to the Dolphins' small rookie w/a broken hip

college stats lol

Well ok then.

He signed for what was a completely reasonable ask- more APY than Matt Ryan who happened to play for a divisional rival. The original question was someone asking if anyone could think of a QB who gave his team a discount on a second contract and that's Newton. Gettleman's said it, Panthers fans acknowledge it also.

lmfao he has two years of professional tape to go on wtf is this

‘Bottom third QB’ according to what?

You don't have to agree, he was the latest big name free agent QB and didn't get paid like one. If you don't cal that a hometown discount I don't know what to tell you.

Panthers fans will tell you he wanted to stay in Carolina and took the deal they offered when he could have made more elsewhere, yes.

He came off a year he was injured a bunch and broke his back in a car wreck, yes. But he gave the Panthers a deal and the proof is how he went out and put together an MVP season immediately after getting paid when he could have taken more elsewhere.

Cam Newton

Darnold has alternated between bad and good, but when he plays well he has shown a level Allen hasn't reached yet as a passer. Needs to limit the back breaking INT tho to really justify separating the two by a meaningful stretch.

Lmfao ok

I trust Beane and McDermott to value him correctly

He literally tried to correct my saying Rodgers was first by saying he was second. I don't know how I can spell this out any clearer.

No, I’m not. Nobody was talking about performance.

Again: no, you weren't. You thought you were supporting the idea that 'inaccurate' QBs face an inordinately high amount of man coverage and used an unrelated graphic as proof. That's why you said Rodgers was second when he's quite clearly first. I simply provided you the correct data.

Regarding your first bolded: no. You are looking at the chart that gives EPA differential on zone/man. Completely unrelated. We were talking about how often QBs face man vs zone and how that correlates to their supposed 'accuracy'. That's this chart: And as to your second bolded...considering that was the entire point of the conversation I would have just spared myself the time, personally. Nobody was talking about performance against zone or man coverage.

Maybe just stop typing for a bit

lmfao the top guy on the chart is Aaron Rodgers and PFF fantasy football column would not be my go-to reference but hey

Have you looked at our drafts w/the new FO versus the Whaley years? That alone should tell you the bolded is wrong.

There are so many other factors that go into what coverage a secondary will line up in I don't even feel like responding but oh well Go find some stats that show a correlation between %man coverage and QB 'accuracy' The reason Newton and the Panthers saw a ton of man is just as likely because their wideouts were some combination of Funchess, Brenton Bersin, Philly Brown, and Kaelin Clay lmfao

Ok I understand you I think the Bills haven't had a wideout like Diggs before and we've collectively forgotten how a guy like him can improve an offense. If he is running that route instead of Brown it's either a TD or more likely the Ravens aren't in Cover0 because with Diggs on the field you can expect him to win and just throw him open for a TD when you see that look

Mmm you don't beat cover0 by throwing 'accurate passes in tight windows' The whole concept of cover0 is understanding leverage...there are no tight windows, just reading routes develop and throwing angles On that last play, Allen delivered the correct ball against that defense to the correct target who was so badly outmatched physically against his defender he couldn't even get a hand on it. And iirc he threw another one vs same defense to Beasley who dropped it, our wideouts got beat up that game