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Again I find that without supporting data this is simply anecdotal

Good point I'll go get him and a case of beer for good measure

We have a wholly unreliable group of TEs so I would bring him in if reasonable

This is why IMO the idea is incomplete without corresponding stats on # of plays run inside the 3/safety %...instead of just saying 'safeties are way more rare than touchdowns on a per snap basis'

Yes I agree, but it goes to my point that it's only a safety because those plays happen to occur in a very specific part of the field. It requires no greater effort than a normal sack or TFL which I think we all agree shouldn't be worth any point or fraction thereof.

It's only rare by design. Again, I doubt it's that rare when you adjust for percentage of plays run from the offense's 3>...which imo is the better way of looking at it You are also leaving out the offensive penalty in end zone...you really want 11 points awarded to the other team because of a holding call or intentional grounding? It's more the product of good special teams play. I don't consider a tackle for loss or sack the product of elite-level defense, nor an offensive penalty in the end zone. I find it hard to reconcile your disdain for a 3 point field goal on special teams with your enthusiasm for an 11 point safety, which is by and large almost always the product of good punt coverage...on special teams.

...I mean if people really want to get into scoring the minutiae we already have fantasy football.

500 minimum

Yes exactly not to mention he wasn't that good at it last season...albeit probably because of injury Just needs lateral quickness (which Milano has), ability to initial cover 1v1 RBs primarily sometimes slot/TE and widen into slot (which Milano can do decently), and read/force run weakside to proper gap inside (which he was terrible at last year)...it's not nearly as big a position responsibility wise in this defense imo

Should touchdowns from the 20 be worth more than touchdowns from the 5?

That is not at all what I saw last season. He was very good and one of the reasons I feel confident he will be locked up long term asap

True but those Panthers defenses didn't have anything close to a safety tandem like Hyde/Poyer, they needed to be exceptional through the middle.

My point was when you look at the specific circumstances that must occur by rule for a safety to be possible, they probably aren't as rare as they seem.

I'm hoping Milano is the guy that he showed pre-injury and gets back to form...could be the Thomas David to Edmunds' Kuechly. Unfortunately as of right now he is the most replaceable as you say

The dark blues are cool

All these minus Milano would be my answer too

I think it needs to be addressed that safeties can only really occur within a very specific part of the field, whereas defensive TDs can happen from anywhere. So it's not simply that safeties occur more infrequently...imo you have to look at the ratio of how many plays run from inside the 3 result in safeties vs the ratio of overall defensive snaps that result in defensive TDs...I expect it will make defensive TDs as infrequent, if not rarer, than safeties.

I think you are going to be pleasantly surprised, especially with how Diggs opens up the field for other pass catchers

No. He is totally mediocre

Yes, it's complete guesswork that Fitzpatrick would have made the playoffs on the Bills last year. He has worse than a career 3:2 td/int ratio, and with the amount of close or one score games we played last season Allen's 20/9 vs Fitz's 20/13 could easily have been the difference.

Hate em. ***** awful and the uniforms suck too

I looked at the Cowboys game like the Vikings game tbh; we were big underdogs who dropped a flashy performance, got the recognition but it not significant...against the Steelers there was no sneaking up on anyone anymore. It was for the playoffs, two teams with phenomenal defenses, iirc the way the guys acted after beating Pitt you could tell that was the game that told them they'd arrived as legit.

That's because you didn't watch the game lmao or you'd know that the INT bounced off both Beasley's hands, who dropped several passes that game