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Just to clarify if Fromm is on the PS we can’t counter if he gets an offer. But I agree he or Webb is safe on the PS

No reason for Webb to move to QB coach if he can stick around. The league is a sucker but to put fromm on an active roster seems like a stretch.

If you think being on the PS is being retained then yes. But no thank you with him on the 53. Good thing is I don’t think anyone would claim him and he would make the PS. I also think almost any draft pick we got for him would be a good replacement next year.

Not sure it was intentional as Mitch ducked, but I guess I wouldnt be shocked if it was. Noting that it was to his left is a good observation!

You can't teach accuracy!!!

Love that he hits it with Mitch walking in front of him at the last moment!

Thanks for explaining. I see and agree with many of your points. I think coaching was also the biggest issue in that game. I will rewatch the game with focus on Levi, but I do remember LB and Nickel having a few rough plays. I also can appreciate the point about shading help (usually Hyde) to him more (Joe M mentioned as well). I just land in a different place relative to priorities, but I do understand your logic. At this point itll just play out. Thanks again for talking through it.

The point on man is he is not a liability. You are arguing he is a liability in man right? on the slow and weak i did make a bit of a jump that would cause poor tackling. his length def helps him in tackling. I guess the question is what priority is this? you have said you think DL is higher priority. what about nickel corner? with limited resources you have to prioritize. I put this upgrading levi down the list. do i want an upgrade (yes would like an upgrade everywhere), but how much does it cost relative to what we get.

strongly recommend you listen to that pod. McD has had elite defense here with Wallace. I think LB injuries had more to do with last year than CB2 performance. Hell nickel corner was more of a problem to me than CB3 (though taron did start playing alot better with the rest of the defense in the 2nd half of the season).

For a slow/weak guy he has a really good tackle rate (best on the defense by a lot). His man coverage numbers were better than Tre's. Theres a lot of mitigating factors in man coverage numbers though (like tre gets the #1), but hes not as bad as you think. Listen to the Joe Marino podcast on him. He lays it all out.

To that point I found the focus on the negative play of the colts game very interesting. Yes that one play was bad, but they are not in the game let alone winning it if he doesn't play outstanding the rest of the game. I honestly thought the game was over when we went up 2TDs (!) in the 4th quarter. Our defense really struggled.

World War Bease!

I think you can add what I said above. If Diggs made Allen then Diggs has to be the best WR ever cause noone has made a jump like Allen. Thats effectively what they are arguing.

Good topic @Inigo Montoya Bruce Nolan discussed this a week or two ago. Basically it boiled down to that since josh Allen had such a historical leap that diggs would have to be the best all time receiver to be the cause. He’s not so diggs didn’t make Allen. This argument loses sight of how historic of a jump was. Wanna say it’s flukey? Sure. Wanna say it’s cause of one WR? No way.

Awesome OP. I agree he is the replacement for John Brown as he showed much better ability on the outside than slot. I do need to see improvement in separation before i book him for 1000 yards and 10 TDs. However, I also feel confident that over his rookie contract he will improve his breaks and ultimately separation as he has shown to be a tremendous worker. Really like rooting for this guy and excited for him to be a Bill for a long time.

Would add that Josh did a ton of work in college to get better. It was moreover that Josh was so raw coming out of HS that noone wanted him. Mac Jones has been playing long and looks like football has been a focus for a lot longer (his private HS was known for athletics). Josh didnt go to elite camps and obviously Firebaugh is not a HS that can be focused on sports. I honestly wouldnt be surprised if Jones has thrown more than Josh despite Jones being 2 years younger.

Yeah I saw you editted out but i sorta wanted to rag on bradshaw after he was ragging on our boy in the Tenn game. His wiki page where it says "Widely considered to be one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time" mustve been written by a Yinzer.

Agree. You had a line about Montana and the 49ers which got me thinking about Terry Bradshaw's importance to the 70's steelers dysnasty. Tough for me to tell cause of the nature of the game at that time, but he did not seem that instrumental to them. His all pro year in 1978 he threw 20 picks. uggh....

We a few games that couldve easily gone either way; these include Fins #1, Rams, Pats game #1. The cards game was the unlucky one we shouldve won. Thats how I get to my floor of 11 games. I said 11-12 because of the easier schedule as you mention. Again I EXPECT to win 11-12 games; thats not my prediction. I think I see your logic on how you got to your number and can appreciate now how you got there. I would come up with a different number but thats really a difference in approach i see now.

I can maybe see it but those are his expectations. Yikes. My expectations for the Bills is only like 11-12 wins (though we do win the division)

Something I'm not hearing mentioned a lot is all the new pieces and how they will come together. This is not something BB has had to deal with a lot in the past.

What are the draft grades based off? What they think our draft will turn into? Clearly with JA17 McBeane showed an ability to find talent other didnt think was there.

If you are claimed off waivers you go to the active squad for a period. This is why there are not a ton of claims. After that period you can go the PS. No time limit on PS before you need to be activated. The highest 51 (or 53 maybe at this point) contracts count against cap. So not most practice players. Bills tend to keep a lot rookies so I only think Anderson will get cut. Hope that starts to answer your questions. It can get more complicated quick. There is not really any protection. Last year you could protect 4 for most of the week but they would still be exposed. Overall not a lot of players are claimed because they need to be on the 53 after being claimed. The positions that are claimed the most are OL and DL which is why we roll with so many

I’m glad you agree Allen is the better player. That’s why I have Allen ahead of Brady in QB rankings. I also agree if you take into their situation which I read as the rest of the team then the TBucs are likely better. Again glad you agree Allen is the better player.

I'm guessing Hyde is right in that range somewhere for you too?