DriveFor1Outta5

That can’t be right, everyone on TBD told me that Barkley is a generational talent. Never underestimate the TBD Big Ten bias.

I was teenager at the time, so that is the era which left the greatest impact. I remember the end of the Kelly era, but I didn’t get to see him at his best. Flutie came in at the perfect moment to reignite the passion of this fanbase. We were a nationally relevant franchise who could compete against anyone. It’s the last time this team actually mattered to the casual NFL fan. 20 years later this board is lighting up with posters claiming that Flutie is a jerk. Who cares? Are we naive enough to think that most of our favorite athletes aren’t jerks? I only want to win football games, and make Sunday in Orchard Park relevant outside of Western NY.

Flutie didn’t have PR on his side until Johnson got injuried (taking another sack) allowing Flutie to shine. Diminishing another’s success by pointing to an autistic child is low imo. Johnson had every chance to become the Bills franchise QB in 2000. He blew that opportunity by taking 49 sacks, and throwing for 5 TD’s and 7 INT’s. Don’t blame a guy’s autistic son for being a crap QB. Fans care about winning. Flutie became a fan favorite because the team was winning. Johnson had his chance to do the same.

This is a bit hyperbolic. Of course there are some diehard Flutie fans, but the rest of us are far more reasonable. Flutie was a decent QB who helped lead his team during several seasons that were crucial to the future of this franchise. I don’t confuse him with Dan Marino, but I appreciate what he was able to for us. I’m easily “pro-Flutie” when his name is used in relation to Rob Johnson. How could anyone not see Rob Johnson get sacked every other drop back? No one has to like Flutie, but I don’t understand how an arguement could ever be made in Johnson’s favor either. Bitterness is a subjective term, so I understand what you mean. With that said, it’s not cool to mention Flutie’s autistic son as being an element in losing your job. That does come across as a bitter statement. I don’t think it’s much of a stretch or fake news to call Johnson bitter.

Exactly. I read his stats that someone had posted from 1998 which were something like a 62% completion rate with 8 TD’s and 3 INT’s. Those stats are in no way indicative of who Johnson was as a player. He could put up soild numbers with a limited sample size, but he lacked the ability to be a successful full time starter. If those numbers really meant anything, Johnson would have had a decent career long after leaving Buffalo.

Germane.

I find it shocking that we didn’t hear about this fact Ad naseum.

The Germans got nothin’ to do with it.

Never heard that Johnson’s mom was from Buffalo. Inside info? Or did you read that somewhere? Johnson wouldn’t have had to ever take such a beating if he had any pocket awareness. QB’s get hit and sustain injuries, but Johnson’s pocket awareness was among the worst I’ve ever seen.

And Bradford continues to get paid, although he rarely plays. If NFL teams can’t see it with a guy already in the pros, why are they going to knock a talented rookie down very far because of injury worries?

I think that some of these posters might not actually remember Johnson correctly. I’ve wanted to destroy my television set watching every QB since Kelly, but none were as obnoxious as Johnson. For those of you who don’t seem to remember correctly; Johnson was an extraordinarily talented QB who simply stood in the pocket taking sack after sack.

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This sounds right. Standardized tests of any sort are complete crap. There is no definitive way to measure intelligence. Many different types of intelligence exist, and no test can quantify them all. With that said, there is a certain score that one much achieve as to not raise red flags. The average Wonderlic score is 20. A score above that doesn’t necessarily say anything about the test taker, while a score below that is a major concern. It’s much like an IQ test. A high scorer on the IQ test is very likely an intellectual and successful person. They could also be no more intelligent on the surface than the average person. The real purpose of the test is to satisfy an average score. Anything below that point is indicative of cognitive issues. I view the Wonderlic in much the same manner. I don’t care what my QB scores, I just wouldn’t want a score that’s well below average. This^ I’d like to see Joe Namath or Terry Bradshaw’s Wonderlic scores if the test had been around. The game has evolved beyond the era these guys.

Absolutely. This interview made Johnson sound like a terrible guy. Robby J needs to learn that some thoughts are best kept to oneself.

And everyone around here says that Flutie was the only jerk out of the two. RJ sounds like quite the dbag in this interview himself, and he always was. Saying that people feel sorry for Doug because of his autistic son is a real scum bag comment. If RJ is this bitter years later, he certainly helped tear apart the locker room as well.

I’d completely understand the Giants turning a trade down if they were looking for Eli’s replacement. I can’t understand turning down three first rounds picks for any other position. The Giants are a bad team who lack depth. Three first rounders would go a long ways toward helping them turn that franchise around. If Eli has a couple years left those extra picks would build a roster around him. If they believe Eli is very close to retirement, keeping their first rounder to draft a QB is logical. Declining a solid trade offer to draft a running back is the one option that make no sense imo.

Hell will freeze over before someone decides to sit out the NFL in favor of the CFL. Playing in Regina defeats the purpose of refusing to go to Cleveland for example. I think most guys would rather sit at home until their team is forced to trade them before playing in the CFL.

The younger drunks that fill the stadium these days also seem to lose their energy by the second half. The 90’s Bills games I attended as a kid were much louder for the duration of the game imo.

Scary idea, we’d have professional TBD’ers.

This like saying if I work at Waffle House for 50 years I had a better career than working 10 years as a brain surgeon.

I expect a couple posters to say this, “we could use a platoon system with McCarron, and we’d probably win the next ten Super Bowls”.

Absolutely, but I still know countless truckers, plumbers, construction workers, and nurses who do not possess any degrees. None of these people who I know are doing any whining. To a large extent you are correct, but there are plenty of “uneducated” blue collar careers that will continue to exist well into the future. Many of the careers that I mentioned require technical training, but they do not require four year degrees. There will always be a class of people who do nothing but whine, but it’s unfair to say that non four year degree blue collar jobs don’t exist. Who’s going to send all of the well educated folks their goods? Who’s going to wire the electric in the homes of the well educated? The answer is the blue collar worker, and they aren’t going anywhere. Factory work may be a thing of the past, but blue collar work is not. I’m not against education by any means, and I believe that vocational training of some sort is close to being a necessity. I’m just unwilling to say there is no place for those without advanced degrees. What value does a bachelors a degree hold when everyone has one? The quality of a college education has decreased tenfold over the past 50 years. Universities used to have standards. They were reserved for those who actually possessed intelligence. I was struck by an admission quiz from the 50’s that I read online recently. It was filled with questions that very few recent college graduates could answer. We need to recognize that blue collar work isn’t a thing of the past, and use this to encourage vocational training rather than loading universities with people who don’t need to be there. Without this it becomes a. race to acquire the most degrees with college graduates left working at Applebee’s. Vocational training can help fill blue collar positions, and assist the workforce with acquiring necessary skills for the computer age. I appreciate your very thoughtful response. Although I may not completely agree, it’s always nice to hear someone’s thoughts on these topics which I find of interest.

I like having many of the potentially difficult matchups on the early part the schedule. It could provide a change up for the fan base. Typically we begin hot only to fall apart in the second half of the season. This season could start off rough, but I like our chances with the second half schedule.

This ^ I think the idea of TT being a good leader comes from the fact that he is well liked in the locker room. Players have nothing but positive things to say about him. With that said, the best lead by example. Nothing about the way TT carries himself on the field gives me any reason to call him a good leader.

Or understanding how the play clock works when his team trails late in the game. I agree, this board underestimates how putrid he will play against AFC North opponents. His track record against them is terrible.