GunnerBill

Yep. Harbaugh botched that.

Mahomes taking Rice out after that INT might be a defining moment in their season. Friendly fire.

The Chiefs are in trouble. They have nobody who can separate.

Hahahahaha. Jets.

They couldn't be any worse

The Eagles D can stop nobody.

Yea shouldn't be out there.

Turns out the Georgia D isn't an NFL D.

The Eagles defense is beyond terrible.

The Taysom Hill gimmick is so tired but it still works.

Diggs is him.

Anyone else find Vance Joseph being DC in Denver where he was formerly HC weird? I guess it has happened before but this quickly?

The Bills woulda still blown out the Dolphins with a Fitz / Tyrod level QB and they'd have beaten the Jags who were hopeless but not in a blow out. They'd have lost to the Cardinals.

I don't think @NoSaint is questioning that reality. He is just saying it is, as a system, strange. And if you were starting with a blank sheet of paper it is not the model you'd design.

Because in football there are high leverage moments time and again when everyone knows what you want to do. And in those moments scheme can only do so much. It comes down to mano vs mano and your guy has to beat theirs. And teams use the sideline as the extra defender and protect with inside leverage so that is where the opportunity is. You have to have the players to take it.

We all are. I obviously love winning blow outs. But I hope the first time we get the ball last needing a touchdown to win is not in the playoffs. Cos I wanna "find out" before that.

The argument I make is in the biggest moments when everyone knows you are passing you will need guys who can win outside. Avoiding being in those high leverage situations is a good strategy. But at some you are likely to get there.

Renfrow got 2 years $32m from the Raiders. $16m AAV. That was a couple of years ago but for a true slot (which Shakir is IMO and Renfrow was) I think that is the market plus inflation. I reckon that probably puts him in and around the $20m per range. I could see something like 4 years, $78m, $19.5 AAV as being his market if he has the sort of year he is on pace for this year (around 1,000 yards). Give it two years of that sort of production and another year of inflation and let him hit FA and he may go even slightly above that with another team. EDIT: to be clear I am not saying he is a MUST sign at that price. It is high for a slot receiver for me and if in the crunch they still struggle without an outside guy I'd be wary. But that is a realistic look at his market IMO.

The ability to win against press outside.

They all had elements that you could latch onto but they all had major flaws and weaknesses too. Rex was lazy and outdated. Marrone was a micro manager and an ass of a personality. Gailey had zero clue about defense. Jauron was cautious to a fault and Mularkey had no grasp of detail.

It is more about what I see on tape rather than whether we are or are not throwing.

Correct. As @Kirby Jackson said earlier. Shakir is about as expected. Coleman too (but my expectations were not high). Hollins slightly better. Samuel a fair bit worse. MVS as expected.

Its not about numbers. That was where I had them pre-season. I need to see more before I move them up.

I'll modify it to bottom 4. Woah boy the Ravens group has struggled. We will get a test of it Sunday Night but they are in my conversation now for bad WR groups.

Not sure I agree with that. It's still a people business first and foremost. If word gets out that he leads you up the path and then ultimately won't commit it will count against him. When your name gets a mark against it in the league it can be tough to overcome. I think he will get interviews this year. But I doubt he sweeps the board for interview requests as he has the last two years.