GunnerBill

Oh he can totally play the Z and run the WR screens, the slants and the quick hitches. The issue is you can't be a Z receiver only running those 3 routes. Whereas you can still run those routes from the slot and, as with your other routes, you will get a lot of free releases off the line. That aids Keon's route running because when he gets to dicatate his spacing he is better than when it is contested when he has the tendency to play to contact.

Liverpool are the Packers. 100%. That is the easiest EPL - NFL comparison there is.

Baker is similar to Goff IMO. People got an idea in their heads about him and no amount of proving it is shaking that perception for some

Oh Vita Vea is over 30 too. Missed him. Yea it's a garbage list.

Yea a lot of that list I disagree with tbh. Khalil Mack has been a better football player than Mike Evans for precisely zero days of their respective NFL careers. No place at all for Taylor Decker? Seriously? He is better than all but about 6 or 7 of those guys. Geno is on the list but Dak Prescott isn't? Come on man. No Jalen Ramsey in the top 30? Behave. It's an atrocious list. If what they mean is "the 30 players over 30 with the highest PFF grades in 2024" they should... you know.... say that! Oh and from a Bills perspective.... no Dion Dawkins??? Like there is a world where I could look at a list of 30, maybe, and not see Dion and understand it. But when Jake Matthews (who I like) and Grant Bolles (horribly overrated) both make it and Dion is better than both.... I can't understand it. Makes zero sense. I am generally a PFF defender and I subscribe to their advanced stats. But this is just horrible click bait designed to make fans foam at the mouth. It worked.

And teams have just got so much more used to it. The last few have been dull. The Raiders in 2019 was the last interesting one and that was almost entirely because of AB's antics. The Bills don't have an Antonio Brown. Before that you are probably going back to the Bengals series and that is well over 10 years ago.

I use the app and the youtube page. I very rarely visit the website.

I look back with quite a lot of nostalgia now at the drought. An era when every regular season win felt like a massive achievement. Especially if we beat anyone half decent. Now the regular season games often feel very routine and I kinda miss that jeopardy. Having a great team with a superstar Quarterback is definitely better, don't get me wrong.

And the answer was not Joe Brady. It is all on Keon.

Why didn't Keon get open in college then if it's all Brady's fault?

No your theory is McDermott is instructing Beane to pick him. Beane makes the picks. But the coaches are a part of their evaluation process, especially on round 1 guys in terms of how they fit and would/could be used. Beane has explained this many times.

I think at this point he is so mentally scrambled I'd be surprised if he panned out in Dallas. I don't think coaching was the issue per se. But I always felt it was an odd pick for the scheme. And both personnel and coaching deserve criticism for that because there is no way Beane picked him without McDermott and Frazier (at the time) being confident they could use him. Had he gone to a better scheme fit out of the gate could his career have been different? Maybe. At this point tho I think he will just meakly flame out of the league.

Depends what you mean by same class. If you mean they are not elite Quarterbacks, yes, we agree they are the same class. As for what that means in January.... Purdy has been to a Superbowl. Matt Ryan should have won one but for Kyle Shanahan's stupidity. Joe Flacco won one. The ghost of Peyton Manning won one when he literally couldn't throw. You need everything to go right to win with a guy like Goff. That is for sure. Whereas a Mahomes, or in theory an Allen or Jackson can make some magic happen even when some things have gone wrong. My main contention is good Quarterbacks are hard to find. Elite ones even harder. If you are lucky enough to find one as good as Jared Goff you should try and put pieces around him and hope for a few bounces your way.

He is finished. I don't care where he signs. He doesn't move the needle.

I think they are honestly pretty similar. I haven't focussed as much on Downs since he came into the league. I think he is a more natural route runner though. Ha you missed the thread here the other night then.

Tier 1 is EXACTLY what I said the other day. Jefferson, Chase, Brown in some order.... then a BIG gap.

The last few Hard Knocks have been singularly dull compared to the early years so I don't think the distraction is the same as it was in the years when this was novel. Teams are much more used to this kind of behind the scenes filming than they were. I'm excited for it personally.

Why?

Only played 1 year. But was a Bill for 2.

Zach Brown.

Yea Teller is the one. Scheme switch was critical there. Poona Ford is the only othere one I can think of who was good before. Meh here. Good after.

He is a cut candidate, yes. But it isn't anything like a guarantee. I think he has a chance to stay too. But he will have to look good in camp. For most of last season him being out there was a net negative for the defense.

This is the list of the best though and length of proving it is part of the consideration for me. I do think the two best players in the NFL under 25 are Sewell and Hamilton. They both look like future HoFers. I do agree if you let any GM choose Daniels (and Stroud probably) are the top 2 because having a Quarterback just matters that much more. If Daniels backs his rookie year up he for sure moves up.

Yes. But the whole point of the elite talent conversation is about surrounding Josh. Come on you know that was the context. I don't know who executed the trade. But is pretty common knowledge Veach was the guy who banged the drum for Mahomes and convinced Andy. https://www.esquire.com/sports/a44893777/patrick-mahomes-scout-discovery-true-story/

Yes. And all you have proved is the only elite guy he has drafted is Josh Allen. We are talking about putting elite talent around Josh Allen. That is what I meant. Veach technically inherited his QB (although he was the guy that idenfied him which is why he was promoted and Dorsey let go) but he has put more elite players around Mahomes than Beane has around Josh. And Howie has put more elite players around Hurts (who isn't himself elite so needs more pieces). Your own assessment supports that.