GunnerBill

Actually the Bills scouts are pretty good. That is why they perform so well on day 3 of the draft - which is the scouts day. Day 1 and 2 are on the senior personnel team - Beane, Gaine, Gray primarily.

That combination is intriguing, but make no mistake that is a Head Coach downgrade that you are hoping outperforms what we have by a bit of freshness of voice and potentially an upgrade at OC. While I agree Saleh wasn't responsible for bringing the entire circus to town in NYC he definitely didn't help himself with his press interactions. This is a good point. Fundamentally it's the same defense. Yea McDermott was hired by Terry, not Whaley.

I think it's his worst regular season loss since he decided to start Nathan Peterman in the middle of a playoff chase in 2017.

If I was moving on (I'm not there yet but open to the idea that I might be in January) then for coach Klint Kubiak and I have no idea on GM. I'd honestly hire the coach and let them pick their GM. When I look across the NFL the last 15 years that model has worked a lot: Carroll chose Schneider; Reid chose Dorsey and then Veach; Shanahan chose Lynch; McDermott chose Beane. I think synergy in that relationship really matters and unless you have an elite GM in situ where you make the coach the interchangeable part I'd start with the coach then go from there.

Worth saying on Beane I suspect (though don't know) he leans more on McDermott now than he ever did when Schoen was here. I know there are people convinced McDermott ran every draft like a puppet master but that simply isn't true. He wasn't even the 2nd most important person in the room when the Beane - Schoen axis was together. Now he most likely is. Because from what I am told Beane is just like that, relationships are big for him.

As I understand it Beane made the decisions and the selections (and still does) but he trusted Joe Schoen more than any human being on the planet when it came to talent evaluation. So it is reasonable to think that he had a big influence in all the draft picks while he was here. I have been told by people in the room that he sort of lacks that now. While he has good relationships with Gaine and Gray and I'm sure he "trusts" them. It isn't like the Beane - Schoen relationship. They were almost brother like. On the Brandon point though Whaley wasn't here when he was GM. Nix recruited Whaley.

It really wasn't. I know that was the narrative. It wasn't what the tape showed.

Think you mean Jeffrey Simmons. He fell because of red flags both health and off field. If he'd been clean he was a top 10 player. Burns was the guy I wanted if it wasn't Ed, I think that would have been a good pick. That said Ed has still been a really good player for the Bills.

Or you go up for one of the guys that really solves your problem - BTJ for example.

But McConkey doesn't solve this team's biggest issue which is they don't threaten deep and outside and it means teams can compress the field against us both vertically and horizontally. And look I'd have picked him before Coleman, because Coleman doesn't do any of those things either and McConkey is just a better football player. And anyone who tried to argue that Coleman was a contested catch specialist hadn't watched enough of him in college. He wasn't that for Florida State he hasn't been that in the league. He is pretty average in that facet. The thing Keon does best is run after the catch ball in hand. It is not coincidence that when the Bills were getting some production from him in the middle of his rookie year pre injury that is how he was being used in the main. Coleman was just a bad pick. A slow, big slot, who is a career non-separator and average at the catch point. I said it at the time and I stick by every word.

Since 2018: Colts Round 1 WR: 0 Colts Round 1 TE: 1 Colts Round 2/3 WR: 5 Colts Round 2/3 TE: 1 Bills Round 1 WR: 0 Bills Round 1 TE: 1 Bills Round 2/3 WR: 1 Bills Round 2/3 TE: 1 The Colts are actually the perfect example of if you don't want to spend a first on receivers you have to keep throwing day 2 picks at them. It was a successful model for the Steelers for years too. Since Beane has been GM here no team in the entire NFL has drafted fewer WRs in the first two days of the NFL draft. Just one. Keon Coleman (and that one is a bust). 32/32. And now we have the worst receiving corps in the league. Is it any wonder???

No. It really wouldn't. The Bills receivers are the worst in the NFL. There are downfield shots called in this offense. Josh keeps coming off them and going underneath because there is nobody open. Give Brady the Colts weapons this offense looks very different.

Thanks. Yep. Make both those corrections.

He sucks. This pick is a total bust. He is done.

Yep. We are down to Groot, Solomon, Ogunjobi and Walker from our 12 man strong defensive line group coming into the year who are still fully healthy. Oliver, Hoecht, Jackson, Carter all on IR done for the year; Sanders on IR return tbc; AJE out at least short term; Bosa wearing a club on his hand and Jones heavy strapping on a hammy.

I think the defense has underachieved in the playoffs, definitely. Equally in 2019 the offense puking all over itself up 16 and turning the ball over was a big part of the collapse. And neither side of the ball played well in the 2020 AFCCG. 2021 was totally on defense. 2022 both sides of the ball. 2023 and 2024 defense bad but offense had the ball at the end chance to win and couldn't get it done both times. But the regular season defense has, despite your protestations, been good until the last year and a half. If you want to knock the last year and a half be my guest. But if you have watched every snap of the era and say the defense has only had about 5 good games you are lying.

That is NOT true. Demonstrably not true. I am not going to let you just freely repeat mistruths.

The defense NOW is horrible. No disagreement. Your statements about since 2018 and 2020 are demonstrably untrue.

Josh hasn't had a great month, take out the KC game. But his oline isn't playing as well as the last two seasons (still decent but particularly last year it was outstanding), his receivers are the worst in the NFL, his best receiving tight end is now hurt. Basically if a team can take away Cook the Bills O has very little else to lean on. You can blame Josh for that, or blame Brady for that, or blame both of them. I'm clear where the majority of the blame should lie - at the GM's door. Because he is the reason that the outside receivers are absolutely dreadful. And I'm sorry if you can't threaten deep and outside in the NFL your margin for error is small. Josh and Cook our two best players committed one turnover each yesterday day on drives where we looked like scoring. And that's it for this offense. Too much to overcome. Pack up the tent and go home. That's a result of how the offense is built. No amount of snark to two radio guys changes that fact.

Except this isn't true. It has been horrible a lot the last season and a half. It has not got it done in the playoffs. But it has not been horrible every week since 2018.

They didn't. It was similar, no doubt, in that it was a roll out right but it was a different formation.

PA with Josh is effective but he doesn't like being under center. He doesn't like turning his back to the D. And even using PA here is nothing open deep. Three times yesterday they called deep PA shots and Josh checked down to Cook.

Josh is not a big fan of passing under centre. He prefers to be in shotgun. That isn't unusual Peyton Manning was the same.

Keon made an actual play.

That's a poor read by Josh. But honestly, there is nothing easy. These receivers suck so freaking bad.