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Taron Johnson -- WTF???? Stop it...... Ken Dorsey - WTF???? Stop it...... McD -- WTF?????- get a handle on the play calling - run that ***** during a non-padded day... JFC this squad....

Very true on the Super Bowl No Saint...it all ebbs and flows... Not speculating on what he was thinking when he said this - but there's a difference between acquiring names and acquiring players....he would probably argue that winning the offseason is acquiring players for value...rather than big splashes

You can't drink all day if you don't start in the morning...

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35603610/how-saints-free-80m-get-2023-salary-cap The Saints were in cap hell the last 4 or 5 years he was there....The Jets may not live up to the hype but him trying to lecture anyone on not trying to win the off-season is a joke.

Josh--- "Dang slippery ball"

After choking on wildfire smoke earlier this summer, Chad and Duke would help me more if they would grab some gear, head up North and join a fire crew..... downtown Saint Paul in mid-June...

Best possible scenario for the Bills outside of signing DHop. No AFC East. No Chiefs. Not a predicted contender.... Now give Josh some more time....establish a solid running game...put more consistent pressure on the opposing QB and most of all -- Get Nasty....

My jeopardy answer for this thread...

Girgensons is back - one year deal, $2.5M...Sabres have a lot of talented forwards.....going to be an interesting couple of weeks...

This might be a poll question...How many of you are frustrated with your role in the Bills offense? From reading these threads ..there is a lot of that on this board.

Started at 12:15 PM ET...open to media but they are forbidden from tweeting who is there or not there (like a banana republic dictatorship)

Straight up - our Barkley for their Barkley...

Murph's wife is CEO of the non-profit Family Justice Center of Erie County. https://fjcsafe.org/ Here is the mission statement: The Family Justice Center helps victims of Domestic Violence by providing free services for domestic violence victims and their children through an extensive collaboration with 13 partner agencies, located at one secure, comfortable location. Victims can visit any of the three locations to take advantage of these free services to help them safely escape abuse. I know folks are probably tired of donating to Bills causes but a donation in Murph's honor might be a good way to let him know folks are thinking of him. Some locals on the board may remember Murph's wife as a news/consumer reporter for WKBW...

Leonard has 5 career sacks and a forced fumble versus ....... Aaron Rodgers.... hmmmmmm Welcome Leonard....

Add in Jim Overdorf and Kevin Meganck and you have three individuals who know how to manage the cap well. There will be years when the Bills will use multiple players they would love to keep like Edmunds. The performance bar will be pretty high to stay on the roster as a vet looking for a lucrative second deal...that's what the draft and $1.7M per year UFA deals are for...but the Bills are in great shape with a QB who cares more about winning than year to year money.

Key two words not mentioned are: Mac Jones

I have to agree with Gerald McCoy's analysis of the Bills post-season issues and that DHop may not be the key to a Lombardi. The post-season is the time elevate performance and focus. Coaches, players, everyone. If you analyze the Bills post-season games - the Bills haven't played up to their potential even in the playoff games the Bills have won. The team had a lot happen off the field last year. The team had the disaster 13 seconds the year before. Its time to evaluate how the Team prepares for playoff games both mentally and physically. Its time to evaluate strategy for attacking opposing offenses and exploiting other teams defensive shortcomings. Despite all the "Playoff Caliber" talk, the Bills haven't played "Playoff Caliber" football when they get there.

So you don't read stats and you say Kelce is a between the 20's weapon? Who beat us in OT with a TD beating our best LB in an AFC divisional game. That between the 20's weapon. Gates and Kelce are both great players but to compare what Kelce is doing now to what Gates did is in my opinion mis-informed. I am not here to debate you. You are entitled to your opinion. I just think I am right. Thanks for the exchange.

Kelce is dominating right now the way Gates never did. Gates played 16 years, had one 1000 yard season and was a basketball player who understood positioning and leverage just like Kincaid has demonstrated in college. Kelce has 7 straight 1000 yard seasons and will be a first ballot hall of famer. His stats will dwarf Gates if they play the same amount of years. He will exceed Gates yards this year. To say that Gates is greater than or at the same level than Kelce is misinformed and not supported by the stats. Kelce's stats and play dwarf Gates..they are not at the same level. Kincaid is similar to Gates with the Basketball background and understanding positioning in leverage. There has never been a TE like Kelce. There have been other's like Gates.

https://www.buffalobills.com/news/bills-first-round-pick-te-dalton-kincaid-signs-rookie-contract Congrats, young man. The Kelce comparison likely isn't fair yet but I'll take the Bills version of Antonio Gates.....

Spags--welcome back. Sorry Zach Wilson turned down the opportunity to "get" with your wife....

@Saint Dougwould seem to violate the Hippocratic Oath...I mean do you test your patients to see how much pain they can absorb... By the way, thanks for spending all those years in school to help others. I know you get paid but its still very noble. From a dad with daughters who are respectively a CRNA and an RN.

Thanks @Chaos. Your work is much appreciated. I really like Karl Brooks. He has position flexibility, quick off the snap and shows power. He would be a good guy to develop for a year and then when the Bills extend Jones (they have to find money to do this) pair with him.