BillsFan130

I know I mis understood it which Is why I deleted my post

None. Its my own opinion based on the game and how effectively shady was running. I personally think if the bills give the ball to shady on that 4th and 1, 3 out of 4 times he would make it

Against the Colts and the way shady was running that game, I would have put the odds at 75 percent to make it if they did a read option with Webb under the gun. Pretty much do the same play that got you the 3 yards on the 3rd and 4 before the punt

Didn't they rest starters in 2014 when the bills beat them the last game of the year?

I'm not calling for his firing but I definitely don't think it was the correct call to punt Wow he actually said no to that? That right there tells me he thought a tie wouldn't have been bad, which is why he punted...

Touche** haha

Hahaha. Tushay

By your original message it didn't seem like you got it, which is why I was trying to explain to you what I meant. Never once did I call or imply that you're dumb

Once again you are missing the point. Just because I win that hand does not mean it was the correct decision. And just because the Bills won the game cause the punt, doesn't mean it was the right decision. Odds are pocket aces are going to beat pocket twos. Odds are by punting there, the game ends in a tie or a loss. Things happen of course Apparently so. Read my message above

You are completely missing my point buddy

Good lord..... If I was a fan of the Pats and Bill Belichick made that call I would have been pissed. Nothing to do with the hatred for the guy. I just strongly disagree with his decision to punt

Wasn't going off the rails at all. Read his previous comment. I was replying to him. I was never talking about you as I got no problem with what you're saying even though I disagree with you

Ok. Like I said in previous examples. If I play poker and I have pocket 2's pre flop, vs. pocket aces. We go all in before the flop. But I win the hand and beat pocket aces. Does that mean I was in the right odds to win?

So just because we aren't NFL coaches, we are not aloud to criticize a coach about a decision? Just supposed to kiss his arse no matter what decision he makes?

Not me. Even when he went for it on 4th and 6 and didn't get it I applauded him. Every decision isn't going to workout. But at least give your team the best chance to win. And I don't think he did that by punting it

No I'm actually factoring in the field conditions. They are essentially 15 to 20 yards away from winning the game and I thought that would be their only chance to score given those conditions you're referring to. I did not want the bills to start in their own territory because of the awful field conditions and knowing we have a 3rd string QB. Hey it worked out because of a couple lucky plays . But does not mean it was the right call

I don't care about the first two but that punt you are referring to was almost the reason the Bills are out of the playoffs today. Out of curiosity, if Brissett hits Hilton for that wide open pass on the last drive, are you singing the same tune today? Cause that would have ended the bills season

I think it was a no brainer to go for it. Like absolute lay-up type of decision that should have been made. Why is it automatically a tie if they don't get it? Colts start at their 40 yard line. Mcd by punting was obviously banking on getting the ball back, so the difference would have been what, maybe 15-20 yards of field position? They would have probably started at their 10-15 yard line instead of their 25-35. Big deal. Giving the ball away to the Colts to potentially save 15-20 yards of field position on a 4th and 1 call makes absolute no sense to me. And like I said, there was absolutely no guarantee the Bills were getting the ball back. We are very lucky Brissett decided to throw a ball 4 yards behind a WIDE open Ty Hilton

I know. Like if anyone actually answers number 2 in the scenario I listed above, I really have no words to say to that. Its mind boggling

Good points. Good to focus on both teams of course though. Ravens always seem to play down to their opponents. I can see them losing a game which would put them at 9-7

Here is the scenario and you tell me what is more likely. Odds aside and results aside. 1. The Bills need 1 yard to convert the 4th and 1 on the Colts 40. If they get 1 yard, they need another 15-20 yards to kick a 37-42 yard field goal for basically the win. Or even say 25 more yards to make it an easier field goal try. 2. The Bills punt. Need to force Indi to punt without them picking up 2 first downs. If they get 2 or more first downs, the game ends in a tie or even a loss if Indi continues to march. And then assuming they stop them, they would start at their own 25-35 with their 3rd string quarterback, with awful weather conditions, and have to go about 50 yards with 2:30 and 0 timeouts... You are actually saying number 2 gave the Bills a better chance to win yesterday? Results aside, and odds aside. Because that was roughly the scenario Mcd was given when wondering if he should punt or go for it.

And that's assuming the defence stops the Colts as well lol

A tie is not a positive result. It's fair to assume I think they are going to lose in New England. If they tied that game yesterday and finished 8-7-1, that is not good enough for the playoffs. I can almost guarantee that. 9-7 might not even be good enough, but that's what they would have to be if they want even a shot at the playoffs. A tie would have pretty much ended their season unless they won at Foxboro which is almost an impossible task for the Bills.

I agree, it would be better for the Pats to win. The winner of the Pats Steelers game next week is going to get home field throughout the playoffs, so even if NE loses tonight it really won't mean that much. Just makes more sense for the dolphins to lose

I think I'm one of the few people who hate the dolphins worse than the Pats. I still despise the Pats and they are my 2nd most hated team, but just something about the dolphins and the history with Marino makes me hate them the most