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Lol sounds about right. Everyone loves to call out people when they are right the one time, but no one ever admits the 5 times they are wrong. (Or at least very rarely)

He was never the play caller for those teams there bud. Always a sidekick. This is his first year in his career where he is "the guy" running the show on offence. Stop trying to defend him because of our bad QB play. He is awful as well

You may be right about it being a brawl. There would have to be rules to make sure it is strict on those things. And I'm not saying it would protect head injuries but I think it could help. Like I said before, how much worse can It get? I much more agree with the NHL's stance opposed to the NFL's. The NHL allows fighting and cracks down big time on cheap shots. The NFL doesn't tolerate fighting but they allow cheap shots to a certain degree. You get what, a game and a 15 yard penalty at most if you intentionally drill the guy in the head? Like I said, I much prefer how NHL handles things. I think it's safer 100 percent

I disagree with pretty much all of what you said to be honest. I can assure you hockey players still police themselves. Not as much as the old days but to say it doesn't happen is false. I watch hockey almost every single night and have been my whole life. You are comparing apples and oranges in regards to the no fighting in European leagues. Europeans were taught the game very very differently opposed to the North American way. There is basically no contact in those leagues either, where the north american game is way more physical. They don't fight cause most of them don't know how to. If you find european hockey more appealing to watch then you are more than welcome to watch those leagues. I'll for one will watch the NHL for many reasons, including the physical nature of the game. Once again of course there will be cheap shots as I said. There are 31 teams who play 82 games a year with lots of testosterone. Even non contact sports like soccer have cheap shots. Absolutely impossible to avoid it. The Gronk hit is literally what I'm proving buddy. That is not a fight... That is a cheap shot. I think it's you who is advocating more moves like that not me. My solution is let them have a scuffle for 5 to 10 seconds to minimize those dirty plays. Basically the difference between the NFL and NHL here is this. The NFL suspends and ejects for fighting and will barely suspend for cheap shots. The NHL allows fighting and cracks down hard on cheap shots. The result? A lot more cheap shots in the NFL!! And brain injuries for that matter. And hockey is a very physical game which is even faster so can't even say football is much more violent

Exactly, they throw ejections if you throw one punch, but you only get a 15 yard penalty (at most) if you smoke the guy in the head. Do you not see the problem there? This is what I'm trying to say. Answer me this. What is more dangerous in your opinion... Having a little fight with no punches to settle a dispute? Or to go head hunting when you're trying to get even with someone? And I disagree with your comments about the NHL. There of course will be cheap shots as there are 31 teams times 82 games each. But all things considered, the fighting at least minimizes those cheap shots

No I don't think they would allow it, it was just an idea I had. The injuries and brain injuries are at an all time high now. What is there to lose? Even if a little scuffle can prevent one major head injury through the year , that would be a win. I'll tell you one thing. The system they have now? It ain't working

Played and watched hockey my whole life. I'm Canadian, hockey is my life lol. You're right that it's not comparable to the olden days. But policing themselves in hockey still happens alot

Not talking about throwing punches. And in hockey they drop the gloves and have even more armour. So I'm not sure I understand your point

Lol I agree

Fighting a little may sound ridiculous, but how come it works well in hockey? Why couldn't it work in football? I know there are more players on the field, but the principle remains the same. For one, if there is a one on one little fight, if a 3rd player comes into that fight then give that player an automatic ejection and suspension. That is literally at the top of my head one way to minimize big brawls. I'm sure if I spent some time on it, I could come up with simpler/better ideas. There will for sure be games where it gets out of control as it does in hockey, but most of the time in hockey, the self policing works very well. Somy question is, why couldn't it work in football? And once again, I'm not talking about taking the helmet off and throwing punches

You can implement rules to make them stay in control. Thanks for your input bud! Very insightful

Not what I'm saying at all as I thought I made that pretty clear in my original post What's more dumb to me is the constant head shots these guys do to eachother to get payback. 4 to 5 tussels a game sounds alot more safe then 2 to 3 hits like Smith Schuster put on Burfict last night. Those hits are built up frustrating because they are not allowed to police themselves, and the NFL will refuse to suspend these good players for long periods of time on top of it

Lol a death on the football field will result from a cheap shot like a flagrant hit to the head or a freak accident like shazier last night. My point was to minimize those hit to the heads/cheap shots by letting them tussle a bit. A little tussle won't be the thing that would kill an NFL player... It will be the cheap shots in which we saw a few examples of last night

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-5JT36xAPE My comments are not 15 years out of date though. Here is an example last year where Malkin took a cheap shot at Wheeler, (I stated earlier it was Ladd but was mistaken) and the next game (the link I posted) these two faced off and fought. Wheeler gave respect to Malkin after the game and the dust was settled from there. But yes, I for sure agree with everything else you stated in your post

It seems like more Americans feel strongly towards the no fighting in Hockey. I could be wrong but that just seems like the consensus from watching and listening to American sports shows/podcasts. I am Canadian and it would not sit well for the majority of our fans here if they took fighting away in Hockey. In regards to your stance for fighting in Football, I think the tussle would settle a lot. Generally after one fight in Hockey, the dust gets settled and there isn't anything more from there. Not always true, but most of the time. A good example was last year when Malkin injured Andrew Ladd. The next game Ladd and Malkin dropped the gloves cleanly, and Ladd actually gave props to Malkin for fighting. All was forgotten from there and respect was actually gained between the two. That is what I am trying to get at in terms of Football. I think a little tussle to settle things is a lot better then taking a cheap shot back

You think? As barbaric as it sounds I love watching fighting in hockey. The staged fights can be a bit lame, but I love the bad blood Fighting

Ya the problem is the league doesn't do squat. They don't want star players being suspended for a long time

I agree with most of what you said. Thank you for your comment

Hahaha fair enough

Lol a simple "No I don't think it would work" would also have done just fine lol

Opening the ice generally means lower scoring as weird as that sounds. Do you remember 2014 Sochi Olympics? Every game was like 2-1. Teams take away the middle and keep everything to the wider perimeter. Sorry getting off topic from my original topic but I had to clear that up lol. I also love fighting in hockey and I think the game would turn very ugly if they took it out. There would be a lot more cheap shots cause players know they don't have to fight if they do something dirty

Why is hustling to the line b.s? That's smart coaching/QB play. I wish the Bills were smart enough to do that when there is a questionable call

I know. I know there are flaws to what I'm saying. I appreciate your comments Hmm I'm old school in terms of hockey so I don't like your rule changes to no fighting and switching to the European ice... Haha. I appreciate your comment though. Most people I'm sure will definitely agree with you in terms of the no fighting in the NFL as I am well aware I'm in the minority

I would argue that the players crown of the helmet can be a lethal weapon as well though. As we saw multiple times last night. And I think the opposite. If you let players tussle a little bit, I think cheap shots would go down. If you don't let them handle it, then cheap shots will go up. Posters here are already saying "end gronk's career" and "go after his knees"

Same idea in hockey though. Very very rarely the inmates run the show where the refs can't control it. If helmets come off or punches to the head are thrown, then automatic ejection/suspension. Could start with that