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Lets put this to rest right here: The Bills have had their problems over the last 2 decades but they have not been as bad as the Browns and we don't have to equalize terribleness. Browns W/L Record over 9 years: 34 / 110 (.236) out of 144 games Last in Division 8/9 times Won 4 games in last 3 years Bills W/L Record over 9 years: 61 / 83 (.423) out of 144 games Last in Division 5/9 times Won 24 games in last 3 years The Browns: 2017 Myles Garrett - Unproven Jabrill Peppers - Unproven David Njoku - Unproven 2016 Corey Coleman - Traded - 2018 - Undisclosed pick 2015 Danny Shelton - Traded 2018 - 5th Round pick - 3rd Round pick in return Cameron Erving - Traded 2017 - 5th Round pick 2014 Justin Gilbert - Traded 2016 - 6th Round pick - Out of League Johnny Manziel - Cut 2016 - Out of league 2013 Barkevious Mingo - Traded 2016 - 5th round pick - Out of League 2012 Trent Richardson - Traded 2013 - 1st round pick - Out of League Brandon Weeden - Waived 2014 2011 Phil Taylor - Cut 2014 - Out of league 2010 Joe Haden - Free Agent 2017 - Starter for 7 years 2009 Alex Mack - Free Agent 2014 - Starter for 7 years The Bills: 2017 TreDavious White - Unproven 2016 Shaq Lawson - Still on team 2015 No Pick - Watkins Trade 2014 Sammy Watkins - Traded 2017 - 2nd Round pick + EJ Gaines 2013 EJ Manuel - Cut 2017 2012 Stephon Gilmore - Free Agent 2016 2011 Marcell Dareus - Traded 2017 - Starter for 6 years - 5th round pick 2010 C.J. Spiller - Free Agent 2015 2009 Aaron Maybin - Cut 2011 Eric Wood - Retired 2018 - Starter for 9 years

We weren't too excited about Tyrod Taylor, so I doubt this. The desire isn't to get a QB better than the Bills have had (kaepernick isn't), the desire is to get a good QB. Tyrod Taylor 2016 15 games played 2799 passing yards (186.6 per game) 14 TDs (.93 per game) 4 INTs (.26 per game) 580 rushing yards (38.6 per game) Colin Kaepernick 2016 12 Games played 2241 passing yards (186.75 per game) 16 TDs (1.3333 per game) 4 INTs (.33 per game) 468 rushing yards (39 per game) No, Colin Kaepernick is not worth getting excited about unless you were excited for Tyrod.

If he didnt say anything about Mahomes, people would still say he was "brooding" or some other nonsense.

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In a 4 way tie there is no way to do head to head unless each team has played each other. The Chargers beating us and the Titans shouldn't place them above the Ravens. The Ravens didn't play anyone so where would they be placed? The Chargers lost out because they had a worse conference record. The Bills have lost out similarly in the past.

Anything to tear down a division rival who drafted a top rated qb prospect! Go get him NYC Media!!

"The Bills are working with Erie County and New York State on millions of dollars in upgrades to help improve fan safety. " Well this I don't like one bit. Not only are you not going to stop the random acts of stupidity on private property, I surely hope you aren't going to cost the taxpayers millions trying to protect people from themselves.

To be fair for QB's you just gotta get your guy. As long as you were right, no one will care or judge when you drafted them.

Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the Jersey choices? Did they streamline it to just the standard $99 one? I can't seem to find the "authentics" or whatever. IIRC, those ones are a bit more expensive but when holding them side by side I can see the difference in stitching around the stripes and numbers.

People are correlating success on the field/ice with business success far too much. Far more goes into the business side than selling tickets by winning games.

Is he even a fit for what they are missing with Witten gone? Or are we just trading fantasy football roster spots?

Jordan Matthews played 10 games and had 200 yards. In Philly he played 14 for 800 yards. You say this comparison does not count because Matthews didn't play an arbitrary "more than 10 games" when the reality is he wasn't going to get back up to 800 yards. Edit: I also realize this was a different offense that doesn't pass as much but it was an offense built around negating Tyrods weaknesses. And that's all I am saying. With a better QB, our WRs will do better. Let's hope Allen is better!

That's a random qualifier. Thompson barely did better and in Chicago he had Mike Glennon throwing to him. Which is the point. These WRs will do better with better QBs throwing to them. That isn't really arguable. How many Bills WR's have left the team to do better with other QBs? Woods? Goodwin? Hogan?

Name one credible WR that had a better year here with Tyrod than with his prior team?

He had one year without Tyrod. And 65 yards more than Watkins did with EJ Manuel / Kyle Orton at the helm. Granted it was 3 less games, but Watkins was a bit hobbled both years. Goff wasn't much better either, or at least the offensive strategy wasn't.

Buffalo is where receivers came to die under Tyrod. Look for all of them including Clay to do better.

I am sure Yolo and 26CB among others will post various updates in different topics throughout the Summer. You'll just have to sift through the endless hot takes to find them.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000924320/article/nfl-offseason-workout-program-dates-announced Then training camp in July-Aug, then preseason starts.

LeSean McCoy Charles Clay Kelvin Benjamin Zay Jones I understand nobody thinks much of these guys (outside of Shady), but with our QB situation, Buffalo was the place WR's went to die. I bet with a capable QB, Benjamin, Clay, and Jones take a step up. I also think we use McCoy a bit more as well. You are insane.

No you keep last years KC trade separate. It was not involved in the Josh Allen pick at all nor was the 2018 1st round pick that we received from them.

Let me ask you this: Did Kansas City trade 3 1st round picks for Mahomes?

I kind of felt like he let sliding down the draft get under his skin a little too easy. Like not in the good way "I am going to prove you all wrong", but more like the "you guys are all morons, this, I don't need this crap" kind of vibe.

No, we never traded a 1st. And yes, that is an important distinction when referring to a traded pick (2nd) right after.

Most pundits have him going in top 15. Practically everyone does. How does that make for a "bad" draft pick?

No it has not. They just have a 100 million shots to get it right. Law of averages.