What a Tuel

I think that if you were honestly interested in judging Fred as a player, you would know where these fumbles happened and how they were detrimental to the team effort. If I had nfl game rewind I'd go back and look and see if these were bad fumbles or not. The fact that you are so willing to dismiss reasoning and go straight for the throat tells me all I need to know about your motives and that this thread should be disregarded.

Bryce had 1 more fumble than Fred in 4 times less carries. That's besides the point that if you are going to criticize someone, try being honest and accurate. Do you have a problem with 0 rushing fumbles? Can you tell me his 2 punt return fumbles? I don't remember them and I feel they might be a statistical anomaly.

Just go look for yourself at nfl.com career stats. Last year he had 0 rushing fumbles. 3 receiving fumbles (0 lost) and 2 punt return fumbles. That equals your 5 fumbles but he had zero rushing fumbles last year. Can someone tell me when Fred fielded punt returns let alone fumbled 2 of them last year?!

Like I said. 15 rushing (0 rushing fumbles last season) 8 receiving (3 last year. 0 lost) 4 kick/punt return Your original post suggest he had 5 rushing fumbles last year. He had 0. If you are including his receiving fumbles, then I suggest you include his receiving stats as well.

Brown 36 carries for 126 yds, 3.5 ypc. 0 tds, 1 fumble, 0 fumbles 2013, 4 fumbles 2012 Fred has 15 fumbles (10 lost) on 1,279 carries over his career Brown has 5 fumbles (4 lost) on 226 carries over his career I'm not blasting anyone, just throwing out stats Edit: Just went to verify your stats and I see 0 rushing fumbles for Fred last year. He had 3 receiving fumbles though (none lost). Care to add his receiving yards into your stats if you are going to include his receiving fumbles? http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/10195/fred-jackson

Maybe I am not remembering correctly, but wasn't one of the knocks against Fitz that he couldn't throw a 10+ yard ball? That's not to say Cassell could either though.

True, the author laid out a decent case in the article that we might have to make some decisions, but I'm not too worried. However it is nice to know it is an option.

Can't we just restructure Clay next year like we were afraid the Dolphins would do to match?

Your profile pic must be accurate because you have to be a troll. Old contract $10.2 Cap hit in 2015 $7.15 Cap hit in 2016 $7.85 Cap hit in 2017 New contact $5.6 Cap hit 2015 $7.675 Cap hit 2016 $8.875 Cap hit 2017 $8.95 Cap hit 2018 ($5.2 Dead Money) $9.05 Cap hit 2019 ($2.6 Dead Money) As you can see we did quite well renegotiating his contract. We effectively locked him up for 5 years, and if he doesn't do well post 30 years old, it will be relatively painless to cut him. FYI the eagles took $3.5 in dead money just trading him. Running backs are a dime a dozen though right? Care to throw one out there that would have been available at our pick? I'd like to find out if your gamble would've turned out better than our obtaining a bonafide running threat for our running offense. At the very least one of these drafts we can toss out a 4th rounder to draft his replacement, piece a cake

Not to mention continue with $3.5 million of dead cap McCoy money.

I read a lot of the other ones, specifically ones relating to our division. The guy just doesn't seem to like teams spending money, and he makes that a major factor in his grading. If you ignore the grades, there are some good insights though. I'm not sure why people compare Clay's 5 yr 38 million (7.6 per year) to Grahams 4 yr 40 million (10 per year) as though they are almost the same but then rate Cameron's 2 yr 15 million (7.5 per year) as great. Edit: Even breaking down the guarenteed money, Clay got $20 million guarenteed or 4 million per year where as Cameron got $12.5 million guarenteed or $6.25 per year.

I didn't know we were planning to win 3-5 years from now. I thought the plan was to break the streak, and get back into contention. We will see in 3-5 years what we need to do, Whaley and Rex did what they needed to do to win NOW. So sorry to ruin the worlds 5 year plan for the Bills

Greg F that makes sense but I think what is meant is that the transition tag cannot be used again til the contract expires if they did not match the offer. So if Cleveland didn't match Macks offer and he went to the jaguars, Cleveland would have been disqualified from using the transition tag again until the contract expired. I'm not sure if that's right, but that's how I took it. Edit: otherwise why wouldn't every team tag a free agent every year and just wait to see what the offers will be. No offers and you don't want to pay the high priced tag? Rescind the tag and you are done. Otherwise wait for an offer you are or aren't comfortable with and you are sitting pretty. That's where this penalty comes in.

I don't see anyone mad. Just impatient. What a douche.

No it is on the books according to Spotrac. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/miami-dolphins/

Offering something that was over Miamis cap limit was never a real thing. For one they already have 7 million paid for in their cap for clays tag. Throw in the extra couple million they already had and we weren't going to beat them that way unless we offered something insane and hamstrung ourselves.

We may be focused on one, but be assured they aren't. Proof is in the Harvin signing.

http://www.buffalobills.com/video/videos/Highlights-2014-Ball-Hawking-Defense/c8d36341-c1d9-4b43-b463-67af4d5c1e43 :49

Edit. Nevermind I see what you mean.

It's because people have short memories. Murray is the flavor of the year. Last year McCoy was. McCoy 2009 16g 637yds 4tds 4.1avg 2010 15g 1080yds 7tds 5.2avg 2011 15g 1309yds 17tds 4.8avg 2012 12g 840yds 2tds 4.2avg 2013 16g 1607yds 9tds 5.1avg 2014 16g 1319yds 5tds 4.2avg Murray 2011 13g 897yds 2tds 5.5avg 2012 10g 663yds 4tds 4.1avg 2013 14g 1121yds 9tds 5.2avg 2014 16g 1845yds 13tds 4.7avg Both are incredible backs, but I like McCoy better based on this. Time will tell though.

Murray has 600 less touches because he has been injured so often each year. More often than McCoy. It was a huge issue with Murray prior to his career year in 2014. People have short memories.

And Julius Thomas 109 rec - 1282 yards - 12 tds (3 years) Now why don't we take a deeper look into what these guys do rather than just compare stats with no context.

Cause most teams that need a QB don't have a Foles to sweeten the deal.

without him you'd have Ebron and a first round pick at let's say #10. Let's have it on the table who you would pick at #10 so we have something besides hindsight for you to ramble about. Then we will come back after the season and see just how right you are.

Good point. Still wouldn't it be a risk that Clay would say no? Then they'd have to cut him or be stuck with the cap hit. signing bonus would probably make him say yes though. You are right.