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You know the crazy thing they put out in NFLR and NFLN last year is no one has complete footage of SB#1. I believe it was called the world championship. They had to piece it together from multiple sources. Wow, has the league changed. Chandler is always such a great historian reminding us of our roots in this league. Keep it up Chand. I think it’s a great service fir the younger generation here in this board.

We man, it’s funny you say this as I was listening to WGR this morning and the two were debating whether they release Brown, and use the $8mil, to make a run at Jonnu Smith from the Titans. He’s one of the best young durable TE’s available right now. They didn’t tag him, and spotrac has his value at $ 8 mil. I’d love to have the option of 12 personnel at times. Losing Brown was predictable, but they can get a speed guy somewhere in the draft, and we have Hodgins for another possession guy. As far as Marv., one small vignettes I appreciated was that I take my kids to Buffalo every September for a game as my Dad is a snowbird so we try and go up before he comes back to FL. Well, we’ve made a thing of it where between my siblings, cousins, nephews, we’d have 18-20 people at the game, and of course the bug Irish Catholic family reunion. Long story short we saw Marv in the airport on Monday morning, and he was so gracious taking a pic with my boys. He was kind and made small talk with my guys when he was ina. Rush to get to his plane. I’ll never forget such a small, but very kind gesture.

David has been a significant contributor for the Bucs for nine years. I don’t see them keeping him during the voidable years.

The NFL couldn’t agree on the length of time to steal from the future. The PA wanted phased out over 7-10 years, the league wanted th exit over 1-2 years. I don’t know where they landed, but the owners don’t want to shoulder all of the losses so hence, restructures, reductions, etc.

I don’t have a strong opinion on him other than I thought he was drafted higher than expected, but then again some of the prognosticators thought he was a steal. He did improve throughout the year. You’d think he should improve in year 2. Part of the problem for all rookies is trying to have an impact with a training program like never before.

You’re such a wisears. Probably one of the reasons I like you’re posts. He’s bored. That’s all. Levy was a good coach and a better guy, but not a great coach. I don’t think he could’ve done much about the last three SB’s as those teams were just better than us. The Giants one was a sin. I just moved to Tampa a few days before the game. It was so painful being across the street at the Tampa mall with 15,000 other folks. The local radio station similar to 97 rock in Buffalo put a movie screen on the side of Macy’s. They had vans with monster radio speakers. I had the unfortunate luck of being with friends who were all for the Giants. Ughh! McD will probably end up as the top Bills coach someday, but not today. To the OP, this will be a great conversation for us to have in seven years or so. I have a great deal of confidence he will get us past the finish line, and may end up the winningest coach in Bills history, and he does have something in his corner. Beane like Polian will go down as one of the best GM’s we’ve ever had, and like Polian has a vision for what he sees for our team.

God if they kept those rules, someone would be dead today. Deacon Jones one year if they calculated sacks was speculated to have 36 I think in a 14 game season. Crazy thing is he caused the NFL to stop the ear slap given how many injuries he caused. I know people romanticize the bad old days, but the game is safer to a degree than it was back at that time. Guys are just too big and powerful vs. in the 60’s.

What he said! So many people think o lineman grow on trees or franchise QB’s. You get an excellent player, you keep him. We benefited from cheap labor with D. Williams. Now we hopefully get a somewhat discount with the cap, but you don’t cut him. I may tick off some, but this isn’t Madden. You have a vision for you’re team, and you follow it. I love John Brown when he was healthy, but if it’s a choice between Brown and Williams, I’m protecting my QB. You can always draft a fast one trick pony WR, or you pick up one of the older guys for a year. Im curious on Hodgins as he’s a tall possession WR, not speed, but he had so much positive affirmations before his injury. I agree with Sal this morning, if it’s a question between Roberts, or McKenzie, it’s a no brainer. Roberts may be a great returner, but McKenzie is far more versatile, younger and depth. Last year I was a Roberts fan. Now with a lower cap, McKenzie does more for us.

I was guessing this would happen as these players aren’t dumb. There have been future cuts to team rosters of upwards if 615 players and counting for when they can officially cut them. Feliciano is not going to get huge $ nor is Williams. Players who are smart will take lower prove it deals, and then rework their contracts next year. Dont be surprised if Feliciano and Williams accept lower than market $ with the agreement they can address again next year. With this kind of competition for jobs, players don’t have the leverage this year. Once the tv deals are redone, they will have the leverage and expect a lot of pay raises. It actually works somewhat in our favor as Allen, Edmunds etc. will come when we have the $ to pay. It really is too bad on Milano as some bad team with a lot of cap space will outbid us. Milano though will have to go to a non playoff team unless the Colts want him.

We can’t all be old coots like you Chandman. 😜. Thanks for sharing pal. I love those old NFL Films presents stuff. That guy had the best voice for those films. My dad is 90 and he even remembers the first Buffalo Bills in the 40’s before he went off to Korea. I asked him if he’s so old he went in for the naming contest is 46. Needless to say, I can’t tell you how he replied as this is a family friendly board.

Why Yolo, do you have some dumbbells needing to be rearranged? 😠

I seriously doubt it GB. That would be a lot of wasted $ in a down year for the cap.

Barley my friend, I enjoyed one or two of yours this weekend. It’s a running joke between he and I. Now cool up those hops for this weekend. On football, excellent points. It’s a significant risk to think we can do a mid round draft on a RT and expect To get the production of Williams.

Mr. Unlimited is really Mr. Boring. In what world should he have a say in personnel decisions. It’s ridiculous. He’s still a great QB, most likely top 6-7 in the league, but publicly airing out criticisms of lineman is at you’re own peril. Does he realize they can let him get killed next year out of spite? I guess he never saw this... I think he just s..t himself.

MAJ, nice write up and very thoughtful. I don’t agree with all of it, but you put a great deal of effort into the evaluation, so thank you.

Restructure - just change the contract where if it’s $30 mil over 4 yrs, just means you convert salary to bonus, they get the same $, but just pushed back to future years. Reduce - Pay cut, ie. $9.5 mil to $7 mil. this year. Release - cut the player. A lot of people say restructure when they mean reduce. Not accusing anyone, and as many agree (eball, Hap, Gugs, and so on 😜) I’m not the brightest bulb in the house, but I stole from Pat Kirwan on MTC. I thought it was a catchy phrase others are now using on various shows. I hope this helps. We definitely can restructure $, but just means we are banking with the new potential tv deals, the cap goes up exponentially so you kick the can down the road. The Saints practically invented it, but they are going to pay for it this year. If it does go up even remotely close to the prognostications, we’ll be fine.

The problem guys is sitting in Beane’s seat. He did not value J. Phillips and Shaq’s at what AZ and Miami did so he was in a bind. He has his colleague and friend McD in his ear, we need a pass rusher and now. They went to a guy who was avg. 9.5 sacks a year for the last four years and they knew him. It’s easy in retrospect to say this was a mistake, and maybe they should’ve kept Phillips, but Phillips didn’t exactly have a banner year in 2020 with 2 sacks.

He reminds me if the crypt keeper from that old hbo series. I don’t mind him on his little spots on espn, but when he subbed in on MTC with Kirwan. It was like Captain Quint with the fingernails scratching. No offense to you Quint on this board.

Inigo, my Spaniard friend, and no I don’t have six fingers before you ask (still is my favorite family movie), you pose a question my Uncle Gene would pose. So Daniel (my real first name, but only followed with Edward, my middle name when trouble with my mom), would you like the liver or the Lima beans? I don’t relish GM’s of perennial good teams with excellent records (can’t believe I’m saying that about the Bills, but feels awesome), the difficult decisions they have to make about excellent players that they can’t keep. If pushed for an answer, Id say Williams. I’m on record hundreds of times how much I love Milano, but Williams was not the o line problem this year.

NP mate. BTW, love the accent. I would’ve dated a lot more women with that accent. Hopefully you made the most of it in you’re youth.

Both of you guys class acts. Nice to see when guys just agree to disagree and both have good points.

I loved Kiper’s interview on Josh stating the number of players at Wyoming were drafted, and the lack of volume of throws. Kipper stated this before and after the draft. He was spot on with his evaluation.

Marino like Sapp (dude is such a tool) dropped due to the wacky tabaccy. Even more than Kelly, Marino is the best QB I’ve ever seen. I loved Manning, but that release of Marino was something I’ve never seen. Him singlehandedly winning over the 85 Bears was incredible.

Rc, IDK, he was the third highest TE in the league as a pass catcher behind Kelce and Kittle in 2019.

PT, coming through again. Nice link. Not on you, but if the writer would’ve done his hw. and added either the spotrac or OTC market value for each of those guys, would be awesome. Seriously, thanks PT.