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If it were coaches making all the decisions in the NFL there would be no such thing as long term planning. Coaches are only 'somewhat' involved in such thinking at best in general. Other than that, repeating what you already said isn't really adding anything here. Big picture scenarios are real things that Gm's and Owners employ throughout the NFL, regardless of the perspective of coaches and fans at times. I'm sorry you don't see the lack of concern for Spiller's immediate production coming from multiple angles within the organization. More of your "facts" you list are actually opinions just like everybody else. "Teams will NEVER Bla bla bla" whatever

Nah... I would never say I "know" . I'll leave that to you. You can't back up what you're saying about Spiller as fact just the same. Not one thing you said proves that. Saying you know doesn't cut it. It's not a tough concept really... You organize a business plan within your organization to regain a measure of long term success. A draft pick comes a long that is a game-breaker whom you think will help you greatly as that plan comes to life, even though you already have a couple really good guys at his position. He is rated higher on your draft board by a mile than any other player thats up there still....so you take him. As you begin to implement season 1 of the plan, you are not too concerned with wether he is approved by fans with little to no attention span or long term view. You hope he gets in there, learns a little, get's used to the speed of the NFL. Your goal however is for him to be ready when your team is ready to make a run for real contention. And please don't generalize about my posts... I've seen hundreds of you come and go since the early days of this board. Move on to something else if my opinion or concept is too mindblowing for you to jive with. Opinions are encouraged here. So in saying that, I understand your 'opinion' and if you have nothing to add then just move on.

It's great you're rooting for this kid but..... Elway?...Seriously? How bout shooting for Craig Morton first?

Until the Bills prove otherwise, the most we can hope for is staying with them for a few quarters. The Pats are too consistent and multi-faceted on offense for us I think., and too opportunistic in the clutch.

Sorry , Still think what I'm saying is true. Your capital letters, name-calling and stats didn't convince me otherwise. Also, nowhere did I say they were "saving him" re: Spiller or Bush... If he got on the field, so be it... If not so much, that's ok too. because they knew they weren't winning football games this year. This is the 1st year of an actual building project. Something that hasn't been attempted since early in the Donahoe era. It's been patches and band-aids since then. And Bush wasn't forced on the field either, but they didn't know about the quality of the other backs there quite yet in his 1st year. Anyway, I'm quite sure of what I'm saying being true... as sure as one can be without working in the organization.

I don't think they'd admit it, but yes he was drafted for the future and was the best player available and a game breaker type of play-maker...Yes better than the 3rd Tackle. They knew they weren't going anywhere this year, and money was certainly not an issue. Again, many reasonable fans I know agree... not all mind you. Bush was not drafted to be a savior in year one either.

Spiller was drafted for the future. No it was not a ploy by Ralph to sell tickets. What he does this year is gravy. I can't prove it but it's pretty clear to me and many other reasonably level-headed Bills fans I'm betting if you put a gun to their heads Gailey and Nix would still be happy if Spiller didn't see the field at all this season.

I think it's mainly that they don't watch all these other QB's play, making multiple mistakes in EVERY game they play in (well other than Brady lately) ... Just looking at what Fitz has done for the O-line alone should tell a little about just how good he can be. He reads defenses... An art that has become progressively more difficult of late in the NFL. I think the other thing is that many fans look at W-L ... The Pittsburgh game should be the perfect example to all that Qb's don't win games. They certainly help, but teams win games. I always say it but all QB's all time are a combined 0-0 in reality.

Where do you people come up with this stuff?

Pretty much all that needs to be said right there...

The good thing is, all statistics aside, the naked eye tells us that these 2 guys are playing pretty darn well this year. Not spectacular, but pretty darn well.

So dumb that they look like the best coaching staff we've had in ages.

Welcome to the club! One of my largest peeves ever on TBD is the " tackles 7 yards downfield" crew... It just makes you want to .

Kinda sad that we are better than both of those teams...

Yes I think he was speaking of God .... It tends to feel Epic when things like this happen. But he'll realize later what a blessed life he has hopefully compared to many people and get past it hopefully.

I don't see any way Locker goes that high, nor do I see any way he goes ahead of Mallett. Otherwise good, interesting stuff...thx

Very clear and accurate response. I thought this was more obvious to fans that in actually turns out to be.

Both Gailey and Johnson are quoted as saying That indeed yes, Lee is still seeing most of the "double teams" (which is really a safety rolled over the top of Lee) in this offense to this day. This is a fact, not an opinion. Myth Not Busted.

like 28-7 ? Oops oh wait....

Ahh gotcha sorry

OMG you're still talking like this after the guy regains his composure and has that outing?? Weak

How is this any different from Kelly's 3 int in the 1st half 5 TD game vs. the Bengals? Bulldog is retarded apparently

There is a WHOLE lot of crow that needs to be eaten from some premature comments re: Fitz in this game thread. All of those who "knew better" lol

HA not a bad idea! A distinct possibility :-)

I know this board behaves in a "Johnson vs. Flutie" manner but folks, the possibility exists that BOTH Luck AND Mallett are going to turn out to be pretty good NFL Qb's !! Does it ALWAYS have to be one or the other around here?? There are very, VERY promising things going on with both of these college prospects right now.