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And another poster that thinks franchise qbs equate to consistent winning. How's that worked for the Bucs and Jameis Winston and his 18-27 playoff less career? Mariota and his 20-22 record. Derek Carr and his 28-34 career record? You got your Andy Daltons, Philip Rivers, Joe Flacco, list goes on. Point is besides Flacco, these qbs never made it anywhere in the playoffs. We saw Keenum Foles and Bortles have their teams within one game of a Super Bowl. The game is changing, great defenses , great overall teams are trumping great qbs, because the golden age of qbs is over There are less and less franchise qbs. If you have a guy that fits your scheme,you can easily win with a great overall team until you get a Franchise an. It's all about W's.. Winston, Mariota ,Carr , all way higher touted than any QB coming out this year, 66 -83 . Zero playoff wins. Tyrod Taylor, clearly not a better QB, had a better record and the same amount of playoff appearances in his first 3 seasons Winston Carr and Marcus! Hard to argue that. Pure Facts

Lol .. typo error But Treadmill could actually work , that WR is running but getting nowhere fast if Treadmill White is trailing him. Kid stays on that WR hip like very few CBS do and he did so as a #1 cb rookie!. I tried lol

Right but I don't see any of these guys with Franchise QB written on them. Mccarron has probably just as much upside. I see 2011 and 12 qbs here. The first rounders we're Locker,Gabbert,Ponder ,RG3,Tannehil,Weeden. Cam n Luck are the outliers but both were expected to be legit franchise guys. Cousins was a 4th rder in 12 No QB in this class has that franchise QB stamp. Why waste draft capital on a huge question mark when we can let a QB fall to us and have the same chance.

And who do you foresee this trade up being for? And why is it worth missing out on a Treadmill White or Dion Dawkins? No sarcasm, genuinely interested in your opinion,as stated I am not a well informed college guy like many on here

Mccarron imo is no worse than any rookie we'd get. I think QB could be in play, I just doubt a trade up is in play.

Shaq isn't going anywhere. They rotate DEs and he is a beast in the run game. Just no need imo to trade him, he still has a ton of potential and high ceiling,worse case , he's a run stopping specialist, best case he turns into a complete DE and we can keep him Murphy and Hughes fresh.

I hope not. I'm hearing 7 mil a year. I just don't see him being worth it. He gets exposed to much in pass game. Good. I don't know nearly as much as most on here about cfb players. Any 43 mlb fit the scheme and is a McD guy? Is there a can't miss 43 mlb out there? I feel this is top priority now that Star and Murphy signed on the DL.

5 picks in top 65 is priceless though. Will put their stamp on this roster

I said this yesterday, but I feel the Bills have their eyes on a rookie mlb. The QB of the defense for the next 5+ years. I think that solidifies and greatly improved the defense , which should be muchhhh better now that the Bean/McD stamp is on it. I'm not a college guy by any means, but is there a top 10 mlb or 2 that projects to be a stud at the NFL level? Again, I think a rookie QB is in play,but not one of the big 4-5 , unless they slide to 12. Using this draft capital will further put their stamp on the roster and feel they really like one. Witha RB , possibly 2 and 3-4 QB coming off the board, we will have the luxury of picking up a stud at 12 and 22 for that matter. Loving these low profile,high ceiling moves so far, have complete confidence in this staff and trust they have a clear vision and are following that formula. QB is top priority but on the defensive side of the ball .

I really anticipate him having a Hyde / Poyer impact .

3 yr 30 mil He's a player though. One of those guys you have to follow that team to appreciate. Redskins are not happy losing him

For this staff to throw him that much money means they expect a Poyer/Hyde impact and a compliment to Hughes , who was dearly missing another DE who could get pressure

I completely disagree.. Franchise QBs are overrated imo. Especially on here. Keenum, Foles, Bottles and Brady were the starters for the Championship games! The common theme with those teams? Complete team's. Talented players at multiple positions is more important than a franchise QB! The top 5 (not counting Jimmy G) salary cap hits for next season at the QB position didn't even make the playoffs in 2017!! The game is changing. We have the best staff we've had in ages. Grab a Keenum or Foles, collect 5 top 60 prospects, continue to make solid FA moves and we're a potential 10+ win team year in n out.

I agree for sure. Beane consistently says he is building for longevity a consistent winning team . He also consistently said you win and build this perennial playoff team by BUILDING THROUGH THE DRAFT! He has a ton of draft capital in a very deeply talented class . A.) I could see him moving 22 back 6-7 slots and grab an additional 2nd! Something like- 12,28, 53,56,59,65 and 96.. 7 shots at top 100 prospects OR B.) Move up to grab a questionable QB with a high pick and something like picks 56 and 96, 3 chances at top 100 talent with our top pick being a total question mark.. I think Beane likes option A much more They'd want pick 53 or 56 as well.

No Gabbert was 2011, the 10th pick, and it was with Cam , sorry, I mixed up Cam and Luck.. Gabbert, Locker and Ponder were all viewed as franchise potential qbs , similarly to these current qbs. Let's look at 2012. The Suck for Luck Colts snatch him at 1. Followed by RG3 at 2, Tannehil at 8 and Weeden at 22. Two of those guys are out of the league. Tannehill is basically equivalent to Tyrod and Luck is a stud, like everyone knew he would.. That's just how I view this crop of QBs, feel 1 might be a stud , 1 might be serviceable, possibly a late round surprise and the rest busts. I'd keep all draft capital.If they are high on a particular QB then pull the trigger at 12 or 22, but don't give up picks, add 5 top 60 prospects to this roster and build a TEAM that CONSISTENTLY WINS. Longevity and consistentcy are Something Beane consistently brings up... This is the draft to collect a ton of talent and winners and keep establishing a team identity .

I'll pass. I see 2011, Jake Locker. Gabbert and Ponder. Obviously Luck was the first pick but the world knew he'd be special. I just don't share this mentality, essentially getting a QB just to get one , especially with this group . Use the draft capital to build this team, get a dominant QB of the Defense in the draft, get a Bradford,Foles, Keenum, etc for the O.

I love the approach. Build on the already elite secondary and make it the best in the league. Colvin imo is very very underrated and a very good cb. I believe he can play inside. Butler would be awesome . Gaines availability issues concern me for a long term deal.

Imo Hughes is worth it, he's one of the most underrated Bills and is a McD type player. Passionate, plays extremely hard every snap , leader and is a very good pass rusher, sneaky quick. His numbers don't tell the whole story. He got a ton of pressure but because the DT and other DE were ineffective, the offense could key in on stopping Hughes. He needs to stay, creates a massive hole if he is dealt.

Or Dareus

He sure is but Dawkins is a helluva player as well and almost certainly will improve in year 2, and he's already a stud! Any time you have a stud LT on a rookie deal, that really helps the whole roster because veterans at LT cost an arm and a leg. Fantastic move, more ammo in draft and FA! This front office continues to impress!

If you build the right scheme,he can be a nightmare to play. Coming up with that scheme will be a challenge with his passing limitations but it's a possibility and Hue is an offensive guru

I said this already but with 5 cracks at the top 65 prospects, plus our 3rd, I am praying we have a plan in FA for a QB. This draft could cement us with a quality, playoff roster for years to come. I hope we don't trade up and use our draft capital to build a Monster.

Please get a vet! Five draft picks in the top sixty five plus our 3rd....Have an opportunity to Build a consistent playoff team for years!!!!!!! Making moves !!!!!

I see alot of Landry hate on here. I can't stand his personality, I'm still bitter over the Aaron Williams hit and still want revenge for that. But the kid can flat out play. He's a tremendous WR imo. If he wasn't such a head case I'd love him as a Bill.

That's exactly what went through my mind when I saw the specifics of this trade , I was thinking that this is exactly the type of move the Bills would make in past years , losing season after losing season. Making a risky big money move with question marks at numerous positions. Now we are building a TEAM, not a collection of talent, I love the vision, I trust the f.o and head coach, McD has walked the walk, they have a clear vision on how to win and sustain success and they are following that format.