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I think stafford does when healthy

They are in that same boat. And when that boat stops, it lets Josh off while Lamar stays on it. That boat is called the “SS Playoff choker”. I think he will eventually get off that boat, just as I think both will get off the zero Lombardi boat….. but until then- it’s a lonely boat ride that Lamar is on. Josh is an all time playoff performer. Lamar is not.

they want him for ST, not for being a S (imo) in this system. peppers isn’t good in coverage- he’s, yet another, best suited for box S. I don’t think he’d be a good fit next to either Rapp or Bishop. Not to mention character concerns. Hes not a fit imo.

An ex-Panther joke, how original

That’s tough. I feel for you. If you ever need someone to talk to- hmu- we can talk bills!!! Stay strong- the best is yet to come

Using the word “hopeless” I don’t think Benford is trending towards being out, do you? So if Benford plays and White is out will you still feel “hopeless” as you said? I too, think that the ravens have the edge and I’m not going to be (very) upset if we lose. Baltimore has a great team and we will lose a few games this season. Losing to a great team in week one doesn’t say much about our chances to win the SB.

The key to the season. Yet again The key to the season. Yet again

This is the one!!!

57- 6 Bills. If the Bills lose you’ll be happy? Are you betting 1k on the ravens?

Good lord- 2025: the year of the groin. What was it last season? Hammy? Let’s hope they don’t linger

I just saw that pop up- limited due to groin. Siiiiiiiiigh 🤦🏻‍♂️

It would be a great thing for us if he’s out, but considering the player, I think he plays

And now they’re on paramount+ starting 2026. 😂

please use this thread to discuss things not pertaining to this weeks game It’s Lamar’s job to know where that safety is. Either he didn’t see him or he threw a very bad pass. There’s no way he threw that pass with hopes it ended up where it did. If Bateman ran the “correct route”, as you say, Rapp would’ve destroyed him. He was setting him up for a KO. I think he either didn’t see Rapp or he underestimated Rapps ability to get there. Bateman running the route to the ball would’ve been disaster. Rapp is known for taking people out. His MO is laying the wood. That includes his teammates.

@FranchiseSavior I would like to propose moving your conversations here so we don’t have to wade through pages of your thoughts in our weekly game thread we use to see updates and discuss this weeks game. The discussions you’re having (and I’m guilty too) have nothing to do with this weeks game.

Watch the play…..he threw the ball right to Rapp…..what does that have to do with Batemans route? Regardless of if Bateman ran the wrong route….it was a terrible decision to throw it and an even worse pass. It was an int or a dead WR. Neither are acceptable

Even if Bateman ran the correct route, it would’ve been a 50/50 ball at best, but the likely outcome would’ve been Bateman being decapitated by Rapp. That’s what Rapp does- even to his teammates. It was a bad snap and Lamar compounded that error with a much worse error. There are instances in which Lamar has to choose the right decision. It’s not a matter of “try and make a play every time the play breaks down” or “never try and make a play when it break down”. Pick and choose your battles and those choices. we’ve been hearing the same thing about Josh for his entire career. This past season, he was still out there making ridiculous off script plays. He just made better decisions and was more accurate on those plays than he had been in the past. QBs will be judged on turnovers and those turnovers will be magnified when they lead to a loss. Magnified x100 when it’s in the playoffs. Thats the nfl. Again….Lamar is special and will contribute to be just that. Enjoy it. Who cares if people disagree with how you feel about past outcomes? You do. You can say you don’t care all you want….the fact that you’re spending hours on a bills message board arguing with bills fans says differently. We don’t see this the same and you won’t be changing anyone’s minds. You’re just wasting your time. Just like I’ve been with this 🗑️ good luck on Sunday and this season. Hopefully we both stay healthy and can meet in the afccg.

Your posts in this thread lead me to believe that you’re upset about more than just the 2 passes. And those passes aren’t “the same exact thing”- as has been reiterated several time. In YOUR eyes, they are the same, which is why this is hilarious to you. Those with eyes, realize that they aren’t. Those with brains realize that it’s not just about those 2 passes. It’s about Lamar’s turnovers. As Bills fans, we realize how turnovers create such a negative stigma around players…..we’ve seen Josh roasted for his turnovers for just first 6 seasons. That’s all anyone ever talked about

I don’t remember Josh being fantastic. I suppose I’ll have to rewatch it. I remember him playing under control and mistake free football. Solid half of football.

I agree- I just don’t think his turnovers were at critical times.

I agree- Lamar played a better game than Josh. But the turnovers were the difference. If Josh had even just one turnover, you guys probably win that game. He didn’t. Lamar played vs a terrible bills defense. The bills D was a sieve last season. Bottom 3 on 3rd down in the NFL and seemed to only get worse in the playoffs. Josh played against a solid Ravens D. Solid, not great. Definitely much better than the defense Lamar was facing 💯 and the fact remains that Josh has been a MUCH better playoff QB…..and this is why the narrative is different. Those that have created the narrative have stated why they feel the way they do and there is plenty of evidence that backs it up. Lamar will be an all timer. I do believe that he will win one. Stop worrying about narratives. Enjoy your guy. Coming onto Bills message boards thinking that you’re going to convince that Josh’s narrative should be equal to Lamar’s is just a waste of your short time here on earth. But carry on, it’s your life.

The narrative is different because JOSH HAS BEEN MUCH BETTER IN THE PLAYOFFS. Period

This was pretty much a given. Just a matter of time

Meanwhile, the good guy has 23 TDs to 4 ints. Best TD-INT ration in nfl history. Passer rating of 101+

You’re on a Bills message board. There isn’t a fan base that understands this more than us. Lamar is an absolute superstar….but the narrative will remain until he proves them wrong. Josh’s narrative is different because everyone has seen him be the best player on earth on the biggest stage. Just do it Lamar. I think he’s capable and I believe he will get you guys another Lombardi before he’s done. He just has to do it and you (as fans) shouldn’t dwell on these narratives. Get over it- win a Super Bowl. Yes- I know it’s hard. No one cares