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Available QBs-- Cousins (probably too expensive) Brees (probably re-signs) Bradford (probably overpaid) Probably available -- Tyrod Glennon Hoyer Mccown I would personally take the Eagles approach to this... They signed Bradford and daniels... then still got the QB they wanted in Wentz... then got a pretty decent return for bradford. So for me it's keep Tyrod - just so as not to show your cards at the draft. It's very possible that a couple of teams picking near the top will have QBs be it cousins or the colts with luck - and we have a lot of ammo to move up and grab our guy if we want to.

To be fair - he got like 20 yards on an outside zone run against tampa...

We're in the AFC, and direct competition to them for a wildcard berth... Perhaps they didn't consider us an option to trade to. They also play us in a few weeks.

His 2018 base salary is already guaranteed, but if we trade him we don't have to pay it. We'd be on the hook for his salary this season through this week. 15 million in signing bonus money. And an other 5.6 million in option bonus money. so about 20.6 + we'll say 4.5 million of 2017 base salary. You can split it over this year and next, but the dead hit for this season would put us right up on the cap, and would then add another ton of dead money into 2018. So rather than carry over 10 million to make our cap higher - our cap would be standard, and we'd have a 10 million dead money hit on it. If we trade him in the offseason next year we'd be on the hook for the remaining 10 million in signing bonus, and 4.2 in option bonus money. I'm not sure how splitting cap hits works when you trade a player though. Cutting him next year would be difficult, as most of his 2018 base salary is guaranteed. He's a pure rental, who has no history with the coaches or players on the team.

I will say this - we do need to add some weapons in the passing game. Look at the Wentz and Goff jumps from year 1 to year 2... is it a coincidence? Or is it Jeffery, Smith, Woods, Watkins, Kupp... It also depends who's available at QB in free agency... if there aren't any other options you almost have to bring him back. Hoyer and Glennon are sure to be available. It sounds like Cousins will be available for a massive deal. Jimmy Garrappolo is a wildcard. Brees is a free agent, but he'll likely re-sign. Bradford seems likely to be available. Case keenum... Not exactly Joe Montana, and none are guaranteed to sign with us. The draft is like a month after free agency, and you don't want to go into the draft without a QB. Especially since we probably don't pick in the top 10.

On some of the deeper ones last game they were basically overthrows or out of bounds.

Tate is a very sure handed punt returner. He had a nice return against Cincinnati as well.

The team that got shut out by New orleans..? Almost got shut out by the jets? Beat the matt cassel led titans, and beat LAC when their kicker missed a makeable FG as time expired... I just don't see it.

Probably the defense for giving up like 500 yards

but why male models?

It feels like every big run we have - mccoy off tackle, tyrod scrambling for a first on that 3rd and 10 i think, all get called back on holds. Some are real, some were a bit more questionable. Hopefully this heads back towards average as the season wears on.

Interesting read: https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2017/10/19/16496144/penalties-2017-buffalo-bills-run-game-lesean-mccoy-mike-tolbert-patrick-dimarco-tyrod-mcdermott To paraphrase: our penalties are absolutely killing the running game so far this year much more than last year. The timing of them has been pretty bad as well, seems like they're always taking first downs off the board and putting us in bad situations offensively.

Pretty much. Just win. I don't really care how you do it.

He also played hurt... What about Miami last year? I know we inevitably lost... but 330 yards passing 60 more on the ground with 3 TDs. Down 28-14 at one point in the 3rd quarter, and down 28-24 with 4 minutes left in the game and the ball on the 11. Drove down and scored a TD. Then in OT drove down for a FG, which carpenter missed (dubious playcall with that terrible reggie bush play). Then MORE dubious playcalling when we punted on 4th and 2 from the dolphins 40 with like 4 minutes left in overtime. We had 600 yards of offense and you can't trust them to get 2? I'm not going to dig into our playoff odds there at that moment, but it was pretty much punting away the season. Either way - that looks a lot like a 4th quarter comeback.

And now its on a channel i don't even have.

Cord cutting. I don't have ESPN in my Fios package. I don't know that I would watch it anyway after a day of football though.

Yes - but you'll never make that call on the field because in actual game speed it doesn't look like he "lost control". It'll only ever get called if the ruling on the field is a TD - and then its a huge reversal.

The jets one bothered me. He didn't even really fumble - the ball never touched the ground... it never advanced... brady can poke the ball over the endzone line for a td.. but a guy carrying 3 players and bobbling the ball is a touchback? Garbage. Fix that rule to be more specific.

To be fair - the ignore feature on here is kinda tricky

Ehhh because of his draft status, and past success - every other WR in the NFL other than Amari Cooper, is outshining zay.

Watkins has been doing nothing, and gilmore didn't play this week. Gilmore will be in NE next year - Watkins likely will not be in LA. They have a franchise tag, but at this point i don't think they'd use it. He's on pace for 40 catches for less than 600 yards and 5 TDs. He'll make more money on the open market so I don't think he'd sign a mid-season extension. Jeffery and Pryor are the only other big names hitting free agency, so he's likely to get overpaid. I'm sure there will be some cuts/surprises, but everyone wants WRs and he's in that upper tier with regards to free agents. For LA Donald will hold out again if they don't give him dareus money, and their best DB is a free agent. With woods, Kupp, austin, cooper already under contract - it might not make the most use of their abundance of cap space to tag a WR.

What are my expectations supposed to be? We're a team built to play tight games, with a QB who struggles when we're losing. We have like no receivers, and are getting bit by the injury bug. 8-8 +/- 2 in either direction. Balls bounce our way we can maybe do 10-6. If they start to bounce the other way, we're probably 6-10.

Pierre Garcon wouldn't be traded because he's in year 1 of a 5 year deal. The dead cap would be like 15 million, so we'd have to overpay. Why is SD trading Keenan Allen? They're 2-4 and are a couple missed FGs from 4-2. The AFC is full of teams that have 2-4 wins, so why are they out of it? 9-7 probably gets in - that would be 6-3 the rest of the way.

So a 2019 3rd round comp pick... pick 100 of the draft basically... Or pick a 2018 2nd round pick... a full year earlier and likely pick say 50.... Thats a fair amount of value. Plus we got a corner and dont have to worry about comp picks and a net loss etc in free agency.

Made a few really nice third down passes late in the game. He also threw a big deep ball on their long drive. He does occasionally make the easy ones look hard. Cam looked incredibly off last night fwiw.