White Linen

That's kind of my point. If you keep drafting them you can't commit. Then you're making decisions on their future without them playing games like Petty. How in the world is that supposed to work? Some teams got lucky with a low pick i.e. Brady, Rogers and Wilson - others drafted a QB in a low draft position and they got lucky they worked out. I'd like to see if we got lucky with Tyrod - maybe he's our story. I'd like to give it more than 14 games before I determine that we should look to move on from him and draft one with a 1st or 2nd round pick.

That's a lot of misses for the bunch that think we should just keep drafting QB's until we hit on one.

What would be the goal of a pick in the 3rd or after?

If Tyrod is the lead - yes you work out a long term contract. That's the entire point of this season for him and the Bills.

Paul McGuire

I absolutely think if Rex is in trouble they'll look Romans' way. Here's my issue with todays coordinators - not that I blame them. They game plan instead of teach. Teaching is harder and more time consuming. There's a ticking clock for these guys to prove themselves worthy of staying an OC or becoming a head coach - and QB's suffer the most. If we look closely at this only the elite suffer very little from OC turnover. That's why the player all the more has to be special. I'm hoping Tyrod through is unusually beneficial road to learning then getting a shot - is that player that actually knows the game.

Couple things have changed since then.

Shady's gotta be loving him some Buffalo right now.

Thanks and you too. Interesting that you bring up Roman which I think is part of the evaluation process. I think the Bills have to make sure that it's not just Roman's system that's making Tyrod successful - and that he's actually developing into an NFL QB. I think the FO has to be conscious that Roman wants to be a head coach and you can't be left with a QB that can't transition to a new OC. Similar to what may have happened to Kaep. There's a lot to think about when determining whether to give out that top 15 QB money. My hunch is the same as yours - that the Bills and certainly Rex (however long he stays) are Tyrod believers and the contract thing is we're going to wait but we think he'll step up.

I think I'd rather take the away game without Brady and the home field advantage with him.

The part you're missing is that a projection is needed now on what the FO foresees Tyrod doing this year in terms of progression. That decision should dictate whether a QB is taken in round 1 or 2 IMO. They can already reasonably assume he'll get 18-20 mil if he has a similar season or tagged - if he plays better statistically he'll get 20-22 mil. The decision on whether he's worth that should also be considered prior to determining if they take a QB. Once that decision is made and I think it already has - I believe we'll know based on the draft results. It's interesting indeed.

No kidding they're not drafting in the top 5 - so if that's what you want then enjoy your dream. I was speaking in terms of their situation with Tyrod and having to decide to draft a QB - so in those relative terms they're not in a bad spot. You just said it - if they finish in the 19-20 range they'll be in the same spot next year if they choose to not draft a QB in round 1-2 this year. You really didn't think I meant great spot relative to picking first overall did you?

Chip really did a number on the Eagles. He'll have a tougher time in S.F. but I believe he'll mess them up bad too.

The Bills really are in a good spot except for one thing. They have to decide by now or by the draft if they believe Tyrod is a $20 mil QB. If they don't believe it now they will draft a QB in round 1 or 2. That's the tough part. I do not believe they'll choose to wait and see with Taylor and with drafting a 3-6th round QB - even though that definitely could end up happening if they chose the probability of Tyrod as being a $20 million QB - and he doesn't prove that. If they don't draft a QB in round 1 or 2 and Tyrod doesn't jump forward - they'll tag him and do what they didn't want to do this year, next year. If they draft a QB early and Tyrod does jump forward - they simply sign Taylor to a big contract and the young QB will wait. If Tyrod doesn't jump forward and they draft a QB high - then they have the option to turn over the reigns in 2017 or tag Tyrod for one more year for the young QB to get one more year. Those worst case scenarios really aren't bad - so that's why I say we're in really good shape.

I'd switch Bruce with Kelly for the simple fact that he is the most important player in Bills history.

I think it really boils down how the FO feels about Tyrod. If they reasonably think he can make a big jump forward then you wait on a QB. If they really feel he has a ceiling and he's almost reached it then you have to draft one early. If Tyrod has a similar year to last year - he'll get 18-22 million. If they draft a QB after the 4th round they have to franchise him. The Bills are in a good spot but evaluating each QB as they've done extensively is a great plan.

Pretty much what I had but I didn't differentiate inside or outside LB so I had LB, DE, WR, DT, OT and Safety/Corner.

This is going to be a fun/wild draft. We have no idea which player or position we'll be drafting. I have it down to 6 possible positions.

We should have signed Winfield.

9 points is a lot against any team

Is it a guess when we know who they drafted?

I'd put us at number one knowing how many people will read it too. They're not dumb ever how misguided the article is.

Yeah and we see how that killed us.

The Bill signed the best guard and tackle in free agency along with some other decent signings - restructured a couple non-cap friendly contracts. They've done a ton in FA?

And both are realistic possibilities