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And he didn't kill the kids whole family after they went to the cops. That has got to count for something.

God normally just texts him old Morrisey lyrics. To his credit, that was one hell of a straw man. Not sure why it took a Proustian effort to knock down the argument that no one has advanced, but I admire #34's spirit despite obvious physical limitations.

I enjoyed season 3.

Yeah, we've discussed this. Weird knees. Can't get past it.

Its very rare for the prosecutor to side with the plaintiff. Pretty damning stuff, if you ask me.

Do we even know that much? How can mirrors be real if our eyes aren't real????

He's offended by causality. DeAndre decked her because she called him an N and hit him in the face. That is the story as we know it. Whether he was justified in decking her is a different matter which many people participating in this thread cannot seem to separate from DeAndre's motive.

Eskimos.

They should have changed the name of the show 15 years ago. The current bastardization bears no resemblance to the show I grew up watching. And to think its only getting worse.

So you don't understand the written word. There's a big leap from describing her role in the altercation and stating that she deserved to get cold cocked.

Nice non-sequiturs up top. Dismissing a salient point as "nope, the whole sassy language thing" is some fine work. Once again, I do not care about every other exchange you've had on this topic prior to my involvement because I am responding solely to you and your very biased framing of events. What some other dude said has absolutely no bearing on our discussion. Writing off what actually happened as "A informs B that she was here first" at best demonstrates no understanding of events and at worst is a poor attempt to portray the girl as a damsel that got assaulted only because she was standing at the bar. Double down with that gibberish about sassy language and invoke what some other guy had to say about it again if you wish, because that seems to be all you've got going. She was overly aggressive. Any attempts to portray her as such are accurate. Dropping an N-bomb and cocking your fist back is a pretty f@#$ing aggressive way to respond to getting bumped into or jostled at a bar.

You need to sit him down and give him the talk. "Son, facebook says you're getting high and chillin at the river. Well you're gonna have plenty of time to get high and chill at the river when you're... LIVING IN A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!!" He's not already living in a van down by the river, right?

I responded to you and your example. I don't care what he said outside of what you immediately responded to. In your example you framed "get off me you f@#$ing n@#$$" and cocking her first back, as "A informs B they were there first." I think your position is pretty clear based on that interpretation. When I objected, you accused me of absolving Johnson of his actions which is totally incorrect. Suggesting that she was the instigator does not absolve Johnson. Any attempt to read that in to my post is wrong. Everyone is responsible for their own actions. Johnson is still in the wrong as he grabs her arm and helps to escalate the situation after she "informs [him] that she was there first". Johnson is in the wrong when he takes a step back to line that girl up which had everything to do with anger, in my opinion, and nothing to do with any particular fear for his safety.

You should read that post again.

I'm wondering how a thin black dude and chubby blonde girl ever got into it in the first place. This might be the first documented instance of discord between the two camps. I don't think the tuck rule is applicable in US Courts, Matlock.

Is that what happened and did I f@#$ing say anything of the sort? I can't wait for the next time someone says you to "get off me you f@#$ing n@#$%" and cocks a fist in your face and you treat that situation as the aggressor waving at someone behind you.

He clutched her arm when she raised her fist. Then she hit him with her other fist. So its your contention that the next time someone brushes passed me at a bar to get a drink that raising my fist and escalating the situation is both reasonable and self-defense? Have you ever been in a bar? Have you ever been in public?

I don't see how objecting to your curious framing of events translates to absolving Johnson of all wrong doing, but your ability to comprehend grows increasingly suspect with each passing post. I can agree with that, which is why I don't think he can claim self-defense, even by Wayne Arnoldian standards, and is in the wrong.

At what point does A rooster her fist and call B a f@#$ing n@#$% in this hypothetical? Seems like you glossed over a few minor details.

Outrage is a virtue.

No. People use drugs recreationally. Even women.

Not to hijack but, I'm going to hijack. Why don't you actually read the articles too. http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/07/us/bill-cosby-quaaludes-sexual-assault-allegations/index.html

Yes. Diving is hard for any ref to call on the spot. In replay, its usually obvious.

If you like SoA, then check out The Shield. Another FX show, same producer/writer. I liked it more, fwiw.

He talks with the almighty quite a bit. Less than the prophets of the old testament, but more than the heretics thereafter, but presumably less than your typical homeless crazy guy I'm guessing. I filled in the gaps and added emphasis, but I think its accurate. http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/the-juice/6620153/ciara-russell-wilson-abstinence-not-having-sex