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You know what would be fun? Taking all this free cap spce and handing it to someone who knows what they're doing. Thanks for nothing McBeane, but on second thought, we'll take it from here. It will never happen, but a man can dream.

We just got stomped by a 1-5 team.

This offseason we get to see what McBeane's idea of a rebuild looks like. They're going to spend a crapload of resources and I couldn't have less faith that they're going to screw it up.

It's not way too early. It's a little early. No need to be delusional and pretend that anything can happen. It's looking like a long shot for Allen and fans need to be honest about that.

Love Jerry Hughes. We scored 5 points out there, that penalty had nothing to do with why we lost.

What? McVay was like 30 when he was hired. Surely that's younger than McDermott.

I haven't been here for the whole thread so I don't know how bad it's gotten, but surely the Bills are linked to Mahomes regardless of the fan opinion and polarizing view points. We traded out of the pick used to take him, despite being in the market for a QB. It's an undeniable Bills topic, not just "discussing a dynamic player in the league".

Andy Reid has proven time and time again that he is a QB master. Josh Allen would probably look pretty sick in KC right now. Of course Mahomes is good, and of course it seems like he'll end up the better QB, but do any of you truly believe it would work here with this coaching staff? We deliberately stunt our offense and willfully neglect addressing entire positions.

This is one of those ones where I don't want to hear crap about hindsight is 50/50. Anyone that knows me knows I was actively calling for McVay. I really don't understand our desire for ultra conservatism. Last year we made the playoffs and it was the flukiest thing ever. I flew from LA to JAX and had an absolutely miserable time watching Marrone HAND US THE GAME on a platter. Outside of one drive where McDermott's D let Blake f***ing Bortles run for like 40 yards, the Jaguars did nothing. They gave us the ball several times in good field position and we squandered it due to a complete misunderstanding of how and when to coach aggressively. I guess this is just another dumb rant, but really I'm discouraged by our front office. They've shown me no reason to think they're the answer, and I have a very similar feeling to how I felt around 25 games into all of our coaches since Wade.

The overall message of the OP, that McDermott and co are inept at judging the offensive side of the ball seems to be pretty accurate. I worry that they're someone fearful of innovative offenses, particularly because they like to stick to what they know. Nothing about the Bills offense, under either of the last two OC's could be described as innovative.

Looks like Peterman landed a nice one on coach when he took the news.

You are kidding right?

Can't wait for McDermott to force Beane to draft a DB.

This is a funny thread, and it's a bizarre hypothetical, but if we're being honest I would rather Peterman play than Kurt Warner right now. He's 47 and hasn't played pro football in 9 years. He's so out of shape he would get severely injured and then Peterman would have to come in anyways.

Hey, only the second worst offense in 30+ years! Looks like Daboll is coaching exactly to the level we should have expected:

The third down stat is hilarious and embodies this franchise perfectly. I believe we gave up another 3rd and 15+ on Sunday, as is tradition.

Nope, it was not a snow game at all. That was the time he beat us 8-0 with a safety and two field goals. I didn't attend that game or I would have included it on the list. That wasn't a snow game. Edit: Officially, that game's weather was listed as: Weather 47 degrees relative humidity 54%, wind 13 mph

This is tough for me... On the one hand Peterman was the quarterback for the worst game I've ever attended (BUF at LAC last year), but Anderson was the quarterback for the second worst game I've ever attended (CLE at BUF in '09). For those who don't remember, Anderson won 6-3, with this stat line: 2 completions, 17 pass attempts, 23 yards, 0 TD, 1 INT

Yikes. There's nothing "good" to look at there. It's getting to the point where the only positives for Allen are his arm strength, his tenacity, and his youth.

I don't know how exactly, but I think Logan Thomas would probably be worse than even Peterman. Come on... that was six yards, easily.

No, but one TD in 13 quarters would be nice.

I said after the game that if they start Peterman again I wouldn't watch, but after thinking about it some more it would probably the most exciting game of the year.

I don't know enough about punting to know if it's his fault. I know that I can't remember another time we had a blocked punt and I know that it was costly. I also know that his other two strikes were enough for me to want to critique his signing before this game ever happened. I don't think the punter is the reason that we lost the game, and this season it's pretty far down on my list of things to complain about with the team, but McDermott is making questionable decisions all over the place - and I'm not willing to give him a pass for switching up the punter/holder a minute before the season starts. I think he's got a hell of a leg, and I think it would be so cool if he had a 15 year career as this guy who just booms it 50+ yards every time.

I'm not really a big fan of the whole "pitchforks on a monday after a loss crowd" ... but consecutive 80 yard passing games in 2018 is a hell of a lot more cringe worthy to me. The creepy thing is I actually think McDermott thinks he knows what he's doing. He strikes me as a stubborn guy. Great leaders are willing to look to others for advice and are usually masters of delegation and empowering others around them to be successful.

The guy has been on the field only a handful of times and has already been apart of 3 blunders. I think he's got a big leg (it's undeniable really), but I really don't like it when the punter is a continuing storyline. He should be an afterthought. It looks like Schmidt never had a punt blocked. Is that pure luck? I actually can't remember the last time the Bills have had a punt blocked. Did Moorman ever have that happen to him in hundreds of punts? I mean, I don't know... is that where we are now? Making excuses for punters? Jesus, it's not rocket science folks... these guys cut a serviceable punter for a guy that never took a snap (preseason or otherwise) in front of more than 3,000 people in his life. It's absurd that this staff deserves the benefit of the doubt.