Homey D. Clown

He would not have had it long if I were there, there's no way i could sit by and watch that low class garbage happen in front of me.

6-10 mark my words.

Because He's not even close to an NFL level QB. The one thing I was happy to see was this team pulling the plug on a QB for once when it was becoming very clear that he's not very good, unlike the eternal suffering we experienced with Lostman, Cap'n checkdown, and fitztragic.

I don't see how anyone can really blame the coaches for this loss, when the team was moving the ball pretty well all day and just couldn't execute when they needed to, and the defense for the most part played lights out football. They kept a very real playoff contender with an all pro receiver and RB out of sync all day. they only scored 17 actual points, and the Bills should have realistically put up 24 to 27 if they executed better. I liked the 4th down red zone call, I didn't like the stupid draw offsides 4th down call though, but again, if these plays work, nobody would be a critic, we would be praising them for being so gutsy, just like everyone did against the vikings. I'd love to see a lot less over-reaction around here than there is, I'd like to think we're better than that, and I have had the opportunity to see less evolved fans in other cities, like where I currently live. If there were less stupid soul crushing fumbles and we had a pro bowl QB, Marrone and Hackett would be seen much differently.

Right from it's INception, this thread was DOOMED!

The Titans rode that method straight to the Superbowl... I don't see the big problem here. For the last 15 seasons, they have been scoring less points than their opponent to the tune of slightly better than .600 of the time. I guess the skies are always gloomy around here win or lose.

You're delusional if you think EJ will do anything more than hold a clip board.

Rex: "I got 2 crappy QBs that couldn't hit the ground if they fell out of a plane, what else am I supposed to do?" Marrone: "I like what you did there with the plane reference... nice..." Rex: "What? ... Ohh yeah... I meant that..."

for a player to be washed up, they would have had to be good at some point in their careers. Micheal Vick's 52% lifetime completion percentage would suggest otherwise.

I think you see what you had in Byrd now that he's gone. An opportunistic player when it came to interceptions, but very possibly not such a great safety from a scheme perspective. It's funny how the team got instantly better when they dumped 'Lil donte, and now the Byrd is gone, they seem to be even better. Also, the blitz happy Pettine was a step in the right direction, but maybe what we had last year with him as as good as it was going to get. If anything this year, I love our defense this year, it has been a show to watch.

So what are you trying to say?

Someone please explain to me how you use a running back who fumbles frequently, gets injured often, and is in a slump right now better. Please tell me HOW. I'm tired of this **** getting posted every single week, month, year. Maybe CJ needs to learn how to be patient with his gaps, and be a more consistent runner. Blaming anyone else is mindlessly stupid. The Hackett hate is completely a waste of time to even discuss, if the team's offensive line was performing better, execution would also be up, and the hackett hate would cease... well, who am I kidding...this forum will hate just about anything at the drop of a dime.

love the all whites...The team looks like a first class franchise in all whites. I don't mind the blue jerseys... but the blue pants = miserable 70s loser teams.

embarrassing thread.

Thanks for the detailed summary Jerry Sullivan...

yes. It won't happen, but yes.

Ohhh I don't know.... maybe it's only been 2 weeks where a real QB has been throwing to him... and he did just face the best coverage corner in the league, and he's a rookie, but yeah... he a bust... (sarcasm) I can only face palm so much people!!!

I agree with this completely, anyone expecting Orton to be a pro bowl QB will always be disappointed, but there's no doubt he's far better than Manuel. He's not the long term answer, but until they draft a good QB, he's the best option on the team. I think people are not taking into account that the guy just walked in off the street a few days before the last preseason game and didn't play much at that. for someone brand new to this team and offense, he's thrown for 600 + yards and 4 TDs in just 2 games. He looks pretty confident, and seems to be pretty accurate when he has time.

That's probably the most concise and well thought out comment I have read on the stadium issue ever written on this board.... I agree completely too, but I need to go lie down for a while, I wasn't expecting logic on this board before my second cup of coffee! It really is my favorite place to watch a game, and I really think I'd say that even if I wasn't a Bills fan...

Maybe his Piss-Poor product on the field is just not that important to him, so he invests a lot of energy in side show freaks, and clown acts to keep the 38,000 attendees happy... He's just jealous in reality, just walk through the tunnels to your seats and tell me you don't feel like Jim Kelly in those NFL films making his way to the battle field, it sends chills down my spine just typing this. Ralph Wilson Stadium has always been the best venue from a fan perspective, I've been to more than a dozen other stadiums and they pale in comparison. The worst place I've seen a game? Dallas. It's like walking through a mall that just happens to have a game going on. lame beyond the term lame.

Yes he can, and outright, as long as both teams are within the same sports market. What is not allowed is owning major league sports teams in competing markets. so Terry could own the Vancouver Canuks and the Bills, but not, say, the Detroit Red Wings and the Bills, because of the NFL presence in the Detroit market. There's a good article on the details of this somewhere on the interwebz, I don't remember where I read it in detail, wish I had saved the link.

Why would you trade a decent running back, and a QB for a Sh1ttier QB? Troll thread.

Thanks! I can actually lay claim to that one on my own...

1. Least Mode - Very fitting for a guy that seems to make one play a game that generates more man-love on this board that a pamela anderson sex tape. 2. Cap'n Checkdown 3. JP Lostman 3. Aaron Maybi-not 4. Fitz-Tragic - The amish Trebuchet(he does not have a rifle) 5. Buddy Nix Opening day Phrase, re-worded: "Show me the Maybe" 6. Skeletor - (Dick jauron) 7. Jairus Tyrd 8. Opponents nick-names: Miami Dolphags, New Jersey Jest, NE PayToilets, Titsburgh Feelers, Kansas City Chefs, Indianapolis Dolts, Cleveland Brown-Notes(or alternately the cleveland Steamers), Baltimore Maybin(the use of maybin as an adjective for insanely bad play), New Jersey Gnats, Green Bay Fudge-Packers, Washington Dead-Skins. They're not all great, but thats what gets thrown around when we play those teams in my deranged circle of friends...

Good analysis, I think that most of the hackett hate comes from the EJ fanbase. I think Hackett is a pretty good playcaller, and with better execution now at the QB position, over time this will be more apparent. CJ has been a vicitm of situational playcalling, and it appears that defenses are immediately ready for him when he's in there. Freddie is such a dual threat that things tend to open up more for him. When Spiller is in there, defenses know to shut doan all the running lanes. I just re-watched the Detroit game last night, and when spiller was in the game, they loaded the box with as many as 8 defenders, they know he is going to get it. How to fix that? For Spiller, he needs to be a better passing weapon, and through no fault of his own, be in the game for a higher percentage of total plays, but you'd have to take away plays from Freddie, and I'll tell you right now, I don't think there's a Bills fan on the planet that wants to see less of Fred Jackson.