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These players suck.... just railed on Watkins in a other thread. Can't win with these losers. Someone will pick him up after the Jets cut him, thinking they can erase a leopards spots. Can't. What percentage of these late for meetings, stats driven, lazy, apathetic guys see the light and turn it around?

Agent marketed story. All the incentive is on the agent... he can sell this story (since Watkins numbers blow) as a "reset" on the kid and if it works, a better contact and more money in his pocket. Sammy is a a good receiver but by all accounts a dunce. And a selfish dunce is the worst. Good riddance, can't win with these guys. Those who want "talent" are willing to overlook the personality flaws until the player implodes. Thankfully he's gone. Give me grit, hatred of losing, passion, team-first, and hard work over 40 times and vertical jumps and wing span. Mike Williams and Erik Flowers on line 1.....

at least that "annoying leftism" results in what appears to be open access to govt documents and jobs, jobs, and more jobs... piled on top of jobs.

If I have time tomorrow, I'll take a database from 2013 and 2017 and assuming Erie County is the location, compare ownership in those two years and ID parcels where it has changed. I'd need to see a large cluster of parcels changing hands and then explore who. My initial look at 2015 and 2017 in and around downtown doesn't indicate much. No recognizable names, lots of LLCs that come back to known developers and know projects, like Ellicott's projects. Since the spatial location seems private for personal reasons, I'll have to guess that the locations best serving a new stadium would be in and around downtown/Sabres arena-HarborCenter; around the existing stadium; and possibly that pipe dream West Seneca project from a few years back I think near the Ridge Road exit. I got some legit questions I won't get answers to but I'll dig if I have time. Easiest way to debunk this is through the statement of property ownership.

Yeah that sucks. I hate the Erie County makes the records available with a fee rather than as public info.

If anyone has the insanity in them.... there was a BN story a while ago that highlighted three areas around the Sabres' arena. They I think were titled "Cobblestone,' "Exchange," and "South Park." I ran the property ownership in those sites using GIS when the story came out. Haven't done it with update parcel data and don't care to do it anymore. But that'll give you some good info as a start to use the County's online GIS. If you're GIS savvy and have the software, you can get someone somewhere with an update county real property parcel file and do it yourself.

I'm a pro. You have two options. Find someone who is a real estate agent/broker with a county clerk's account and have them search or learn to use an online GIS. That's it. End of story.

Well, worked in land development, govt, planning, land use law.... I know pretty much anything about land records you could ever want to know. Also have key contacts inside many institutions locally and have my ear to the rail on a stadium. I'm not hear to get into this argument. I have my own sources and insight that doesn't align, so I'll let it be. Also, with a potential loss of a key financial tool used to fund stadiums via muni bonds potentially disappearing in the proposed new tax laws, it becomes harder to build one. Other issues are problematic on that 2013 timelines, from acquisitions and potential eminent domain issues; environmental review; the ability of the govt to fund the massive public infrastructure (sewer and water systems in Bflo would cost tens of millions to fix and service a stadium; roads) to serve a downtown stadium all make this a challenge. Not saying it can't happen or won't.... endless cash can make the impossible possible.

Can't via the County Clerk without an acct. Other ways are possible but more tedious. One is the real estate transactions every Sunday in the Buffalo News. Other is if you know the location, use the County's GIS service to look at parcel ownership.

Built and open in 2021 or 22?

Anyone complaining about this guy is nuts. This idea that every coach can and should take a dumpster fire and turn it into a diamond is also nuts. This guy has taken a talent devoid team and somehow gotten it to 7-6. It's a miracle in my mind. The OL has been a revolving door. The available starting WR are CFL quality many weeks. The LBs are slow and old. Little pass rush and the run D has been a disaster at time with some spare part on the DL. I turned on WGR55 twice in the car yesterday hours apart and the punt was all everyone was talking about. This is the problem around Bflo... people get a grand new idea in their head and it becomes gospel, regardless of its reliability. This is a classic one... the punt. But here's what the Schopp and White's of the world never ever qualify their argument with and that is a punt alone guarantees zero. They spend waaaaay too much time implying that not punting results in a TD or FG and that punting results in losing. Just not true. Sunday was a perfect example. Listen, McD is learning and will make some mistakes, it's part of never being a head coach before. But does he adapt and overcome? I say it looks good. Give the guy more talent and a QB and then let's judge the guy when he makes calls with a good team.

Descriptive stats suck. And they suck even worse when employed by those thinking that describing something is the same as explain what it causes. We're talking about wins. Plain and simple. You can throw as many descriptive stats as you want out, most cherry pick the ones supporting the argument they introduce, but in the end whether it's Jeremy White's constant love of useless descriptive stats or someone here's... it comes down to how these stats cause wins. We're talking inference. What can we infer, statistically, from these data points as it relates to winning. Everyone loves TT's low INT rates. As a standalone descriptive stat, it's good. But when we start linking it with other stats... YAC, TPG, TDs and look at them as a whole... does it translate to wins? Some form of regression analysis using many independent variables and "wins" as a dependent variable might help us better understand how TTs stats and the stats of all QBs each have a causal relationship to wins. I don't care enough to do it because I've sat through almost 3 seasons of home games listening to my section yell "Throw the damn ball" or "So and so is wide open" to know he's not the guy. He is slow with progressions, doesn't release his passes at the top of his drops instead waiting for a WR to be WIDE OPEN as opposed to throwing him open. In my mind, his low INT rate is a result not of his excellence but his limitations... rarely throws downfield, rarely throws in tight windows and relies on his WR to make a contested play, rarely trows over the middle. Those are were INTs happen. I would also argue these limitations hold the D back. They don't have play over 48 yards this year and the 48 yarder was a McCoy run. The running game suffers because of TT's inability to scare teams deep (and shoddy OL play), so they can play tighter to the line and stack the box. It's not the limitations of the OC, it's the limitations of the QB to execute the offense that holds teams back. TT is only different than the other QBs during the drought because of his low INT rate, somehow people have fashioned in their mind that since the throws few INTs, that makes him good. Every single one has had a fatal execution flaw.... Edwards was a checkdown machine, Fitz was an INT machine in crunch time, Losman was well Losman, EJ threw picks and didn't see the field. TT doesn't throw picks but doesn't see the field and doesn't execute an NFL passing game. Watch some ALL 22, watch how many open receivers he doesn't see. Damn Joe Webb came in last week and throw a ball down the seam that TT never throws. I can't wait for next season and the end of the TT era. If in 3 years you don't improve, you're done. Give me a mobil, pocket passer who reads the field and executes a legit passing game.

Need a major rebuild of the front 7. At least 2 new starting LBs and 3 or even four DL.

Stunned this is even a topic. 12 games in, people are ready to run this coaching staff and front office out of town and they're 6-6 with a mediocre QB, a D predicated on good LBing play of which they have little to show for that; an OL that sucks; a depleted WR core. Unreal. And save the "They traded Watkins which was dumb." Go look at his numbers... of wait nevermind just assume he's awesome (hint: he sucks with a waaaay better QB and offense and he's been outplayed by Bobby Woods.) Dareus is the same guy in Jax now. So he's not missed. Can't build a team in one off season esp when the current GM wasn't here for FA or the draft. If McD is getting buy in, that is huge. So soon people forget the complaining, publicly, about Rex's D by his players. That's no unity, that's not leadership, and that's not a process or plan. You build organizations, no matter what they are, over time. And when you're dealing with human, that means some lumps along the way as you figure it out, especially for a first time coach. But go on, complain about them, it's what happens here with emotion over ration.

Count me among those sick of Kelly. Love him as a football player and ambassador for Buffalo. But tired of his interjection in everything with everyone going to him for sound bites like he IS the organization and city and the fans. Wish him nothing but health and prosperity but STFU already.

Tom Brady. End of story. GOAT. Everyone is a genius and wide open when he's throwing the ball.

20 games is jumping to conclusions? This mentality is part of the Buffalo curse of perpetual hopes and dreams. How long? When is it OK to call a guy what he is? A first round pass rusher with 20 games... 5 sacks, 4 TFL, 44 total tackles (solo and partial). Pretty weak. Not saying he's Erik Flowers or Aaron Maybin but he's not exactly living up to the high pick so it's a fair criticism after 20 games.

No one likes to see the Bills lose. But don't confuse your homerism and need to always be positive as proof that the realists here wrong. With a 17 year sample size of apathetic football, we've seen enough bad teams with bad players to know when we see another. If you see improvement, across the board as your statement implies minus specifics, you're looking through rose color glasses. TT is still TT, a mediocre, conservative QB who can't read the field; is wildly inaccurate, and prone to being owned by teams that make him beat them with his arm. The DL is still a problem, even with today's showing. Sorry but a 3 game stretch giving up 200+ yards on the ground is not improvement nor cause for Celebration (a great beer by the way!). The LBs need at least 2 new starters is Milano keeps up the decent play. The DBs are good but depth is a problem, Wright is a bust. The OL is a trouble spot, still. They have no deep threat, amplifying the TT problem because they can play man on man and can stack the box and make him less than mediocre. McCoy has lost a step and his best days are behind him as he digresses. The only improvement, unquestioned, is Hauschka. But hey, if you want to think somehow this 6-5 team is good and better than the prior 17 versions of mediocre, all power to you. But don't try to validate your homerism but undercutting the analytical realists on this board. We are fans, we root and buy seasons. But not everyone drinks the koolaid. I'll bet right now they beat Indy, Miami once and lose to NE twice... 8-8. That's improvement?

Can't be a problem if you don't pay attention. Literally shut off all Bills from last Sunday through this morning. Talking heads and scribes are the worst, their job is to drive readership and support ads sales so they're not interested in detailed, rational analysis but stupid hot takes that either a) piss people off (Sully, Yucky, Schopp) or b) play to the homerism of fans (Murphy, Brown, Jones). Stop. Just stop supporting these hacks. If you require someone else's opinion to validate your own, you're weak. Everyone here has watched enough football to draw their own conclusions, stop reading opinion pieces and tuning into WGR55. Seriously, you'll be happier and healthier for you.

Yeah, a 20-18 record should be applauded. Guy is disgustingly inaccurate and terrible in tough situations. Today the Chiefs at the half dared him to beat them as they played man defense. He put up 3 pts in the second half. He's a paper tiger. See ya.

Guy I will never miss, ever. And when that kind of talent gets traded, it speaks volumes about him as a smart, dedicated, passionate, motivated, and selfless player. None of which he is. Thanks for leaving.

no question. Lost a step, too expensive. Cheaper alternatives in the middle rounds. Not saying I don't like the guy or appreciate him. But it's a business and he's too expensive for the ROI.

Hopefully zero. Want high draft picks and let this new FO and coach build a team through the draft with players that fit their vision. They inherited a bunch of underwhelming talent and it finally came back to earth after the unsustainable manner they got to 5-2...turnovers and luck. Done with the 4-3 to 3-4 to 4-3 cycle of hiring and firing. Let them build this. Anyone who thought this team was a playoff team, sorry. They weren't with Watkins, Darby (not a scheme fit), or Dareus hopefully sees the reality. Front 7 is a mess. Need at least 2 LBs but I'd take 3, two tackles (KW is done), and some edge rushers. Lawson is a bust and the rest are depth. And the OL is horrible. The lack of talent is sickening.

My money is on brains. We've watched for 2+ seasons as Tyrod has played overly conservative football, making limited reads and focusing only on what the defense gives him or players that are wide open. That drives up his completion percentage, drives down his INTs and some people equate that to being good. I don't. I see a player who is unwilling or unable to run an effective NFL passing game and I think the coaching staff, and his third OC, realized his limitations and refusal to play big boy football. Nothing to me exemplifies this more than last week. Look at passes on third down, most troubling 3rd and long (5+ yards) when he continually threw well short of the sticks. Sorry but the OC is not drawing up continual underneath/short throws on 3rd and 14, 3rd and 15, 3rd and 13 hoping for a conversion based on YAC from the receiver. The first read cannot be the dump down but if you watch it appears he either goes there first of too quickly. Been his problem all along. That's got to be maddening to the coaches when they sit in film week in and week out and see the same open receivers down field he can't throw open or wait for and the continual lame checkdown. Here's every 3rd down pass play. 3rd and 9 at NO 18 (11:07 - 1st) (Shotgun) T.Taylor pass incomplete short right to K.Benjamin. Thrown behind receiver, along sideline at NO 9. 3rd and 14 at BUF 21 (5:33 - 1st) (Shotgun) T.Taylor pass short left to L.McCoy to BUF 25 for 4 yards (A.Okafor). Dump pass, caught at BUF 23. CAUGHT TWO YARDS DOWNFIELD 3rd and 15 at BUF 15 (14:31 - 2nd) (Shotgun) T.Taylor pass short middle to M.Tolbert to BUF 24 for 9 yards (C.Robertson; M.Te'o). Caught at BUF 22. CAUGHT 8 YARDS FROM THE FIRST DOWN 3rd and 1 at BUF 26 (7:45 - 2nd) (Shotgun) T.Taylor pass short left to C.Clay to BUF 30 for 4 yards (V.Bell). Caught at BUF 25, crossing from middle. 3rd and 2 at BUF 38 (5:59 - 2nd) (Shotgun) T.Taylor pass incomplete deep left to D.Thompson (P.Williams). Receiver and coverage in flat at NO 26. 3rd and 12 at BUF 23 (8:29 - 3rd) (Shotgun) T.Taylor pass short middle intended for C.Clay INTERCEPTED by S.Rankins at BUF 30. S.Rankins to BUF 3 for 27 yards (J.Mills). Pass through receiver's hands before INT. INTERCEPTED 5 YARD SHORT OF THE MARKER 3rd and 13 at BUF 22 (7:39 - 3rd) (Shotgun) T.Taylor pass short middle to M.Tolbert to BUF 30 for 8 yards (M.Te'o; C.Robertson). Dump pass, caught at BUF 27. CAUGHT 8 YARDS SHORT OF THE MARKER 3rd and 11 at BUF 24 (15:00 - 4th) (Shotgun) T.Taylor sacked at BUF 19 for -5 yards (S.Rankins). He's fantastically mediocre and not the long term solution for a coach and GM set on being better than mediocre.

These guys have guts. Instead of doing the coach-y thing and appease the lockerroom and the player, McD pulled the cord properly and made the right decision. Knowing the massive limitations of TT to beat defense himself and what that would mean the rest of the way, he went with a move that better suits the future. Not saying by any stretch that NP is the guy, but this allows them to assess him, in a pressure situation, and give them some indication of how they will address the position in spring 2018. If he performs and gets better week to week, they can draft one a little later. If he bombs, one a little earlier. Most critically, it seals the fate of TT here as they've made it clear they can't win with him. Best move this year.