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I mean, if he can make our running game even mediocre and the price is right, why not? It’s not like if you do this you can’t upgrade DE. Also, it’s not like some great or even average pass rusher is out there just waiting for the right deal.

Say this is true, just for the sake of it. Who is the odd man out? Jones or Yeldon. McBeane love their ST aces, but Yeldon was productive when Singletary was not.

Sorry, was not clear enough. I posted elsewhere that Hughes may have lost a step, not crazy just not quite the same. Hughes is still a productive DE. But when I say he lost a step, I mean he can't be "the guy" anymore, not without some help in the interior, which he does not have. He isn't at a place where he is a situational guy like Lorax last year either. Hughes can still be VERY disruptive with some help at the DT position. Still a guy that very much needs to be accounted for. He is not good enough at the moment to be our only pass rush threat regularly.

Can't quite put my finger on it, but Sal reminds me of Shuli on Howard Stern. Maybe it is that Sal seems to be the keeper for the WGR Wack Pack in Schopp and BD? Making a career out of being the smartest guy in a room full of dumb-dumbs?

I agree he has been better this year in PP. He got a lot more snaps when Moss went down. Unsure where you are getting the snap count number for the Titans game. The only thing I could find that has been updated since last night is Buffalo Rumblings (so take that with a grain of salt) and has DS at 62% of snaps for the game. My original comment is a bit of recency bias since Singletary seemed rarely on the field the second half last night on top of Yeldon having a better game on the ground. To your point I think it was Yeldon who gave Tennessee a free run at Josh in the second half. I will have to go back and take a look at the game again to see if my feels actually equal reals.

This isn't about W or L. It is the way we got the L. If it happens again against the Chiefs I will rework my 11 win prediction from last week. Trying not to be knee jerk about this game, even though it is hard. I would be surprised if this is a 7-8 win team still at the moment. Another terrible performance and I will probably re-adjust to 9 or 10. If we can play well against the Chiefs, win or lose, and get a W against the Jets and Pats, 11 wins is still on the table.

Singletary is pretty terrible in pass protection. So you can kind of start there. If he is in the backfield he is probably running the ball. It is why he went entire drives without a touch. We were playing from behind and had to throw. He would have been a liability.

I don't think so anymore. I think if he were still on IR/injured there would have to be an injury settlement. So he was eligible to come back week 5. I assume he was cleared to play then released. Could be wrong on this, I will let one of the gurus correct me on this.

This is a team game, and fandom is no different. Normally we have watched the games outside with a group of the same6 or so friends on a projector. Being an unplanned Tuesday night with a chance of rain. I watched at home inside on the projector. We actually were going to watch the Miami game inside, but then the broadcast cut out so we ran a fire drill to get everything set up in the yard. And boom, comeback victory! I told them last night they are never ever allowed to make any other plans and I will cover the projector with tarps if need be moving forward. Sorry team!

I have been critical of Josh. Last night was still much better than a lot of his other clunkers, but some of the same traits staring down receivers, pointing the ball on throws, late reads/throws behind. The floor is definitely raised. He did do a very good job in pocket presence last night. One thing I took away (In addition to the defense having major issues so far this season) is Josh is not good enough YET to make up for a mediocre receiving corp. Granted the run game is non-existent at the moment, but Diggs, Beasley, and a blossoming rookie are about what you can afford or maybe even a little better than what you get once you pay your QB. Nothing to worry about, but definitely something to watch when guys go down.

That was a major turning point in the game and happened early. The INT was a bummer, but we answered back. Stopping them there and getting the ball back would have been huge. Sort of felt like that imaginary INT from the Rams game. It started a run that we never had an answer for.

I agree. But it seems like in week 1 we ran him too much, but then totally stopped with designed runs the next 4. We need to find a middle ground. A few more opps with Allen and his legs should help freeze the LB’s.

Of only there was one recently available

Epenesa and Edmunds would look much better if Oliver and J. Philips were lining the middle with Hughes screaming off the edge. That’s what all 3 of those guys were bred to do. We need a MLB who can play fast and have the right instincts super quick. So the safeties are creeping up and shadowing to make up for it. McD’s Defense was absolutely made for a DL of guys like Hughes, J.Philips, and Oliver. With safety’s backing up a few system CBS (Tre excluded). But we don’t have those guys and Edmunds is the exponent on the problem. In this scheme very strong MLB play can keep the safeties back and force the offense to honor the DL.

Appreciate touching on missed solutions. I always nag on draft/FA complaints without them. We have seen this FO do this with QB, OL, WR and course correct pretty well. So I’ll give them the benefit of the the doubt of the doubt here. I will say they can’t afford to keep whiffing on positional groups this way. If they don’t keep batting .1000 or close to it on the correcting, it could bite them in the ass quickly.

Good talk. 😂

I dig this weekly thread. I’m generally about a 1/3 of a letter grade harsher than you are. But this week I am a full letter grade. I thought he stared down receivers, point the ball ball at receivers, threw into triple coverage, and stayed with his first read too long/all day. It was much better than the last two years but not good overall. There was a major positive I thought. Odd to say, I thought this might have been his best game in terms of feeling the pocket. There were plus where not only would have been sacked and not made a step forward/left/right last year, but plays where he may have been sacked in the last few weeks. I was impressed with this part of his game this week.

you seem to have totally ignored the “McD has pulled play calling from Frazier in the past. We haven’t seen it yet this season” part of my post.

This is McD’s defense, Frazier just runs it and calls the plays. We’ve seen McD pull play calling from Frazier in the past. We haven’t seen it yet this season. This is a baseless hot take/over reaction until that happens. I say that as a dude who has been pretty critical of a bunch of their moves.

Well this is stupid.

DL: I think Hughes is losing a step and becoming a situational rotational player faster than anybody expected. Thinking the Lorax version at DE. Oliver is playing alone at the moment. Our DT rotation is meh. It’s Oliver and a bunch of number 3s. I’m not gonna run him out of town get. LB: Edmunds is the same or similar LB he’s been since he started. He’s a physiological freak who is playing out of position. I wasn’t on that band wagon the last year or two, but I am full on he needs to move outside as soon as somebody can play inside at an NFL level. Safeties: Poyer and Hyde are aging, but that’s not the excuse yet. At least not for the defense as a whole. DL and MLB are a liability at the moment safeties are creeping up to help out. Leaves our weak CB depth hung out to dry. CB: Similar to DL, it Tre and some reserves. We knew this was an issue for years now. FO: Between our lackluster DL signings (and that’s a nice way of putting it nicer), Harry has been, meh, lack of LB depth, Edmunds lack of instinct at MLB, and CB depth, this defense is a unit the FO needs to take on the chin. Doesn’t mean they’re trash as scouts, GM’s, etc. just a bad job this offseason. Shaq and Philips are bigger loses than expected. We have sunken cost in guys that prevented us from keeping a Philips, Shaq, etc. It’s biting us in the asphalt at the moment. I would move Edmunds outside, given Milanos injury history see if you can get him “cheap-ish”, hunt down a new MLB, and draft a CB AND DT/DL in the top 3 rounds.

I have been complaining about Edmunds all season. If he gets anywhere near $15M per year I will be furious. Not worth it based on the last 2.33 years. Id be upset with anything way over $12 at the moment. We need to move him outside and let him be an athlete and play fast.

Which team practiced and which team didn’t again?

Win or lose this week and/or next. The team can’t look like this twice in a row. I don’t give a shirt if Mahomes is Tom Brady rolled into Elway, who is the love child of Manning. If the team looks like this, twice in a row, regardless of injuries and opponents, it’s a major issue for 2020 going forward. Ill give them the benefit of the doubt with the “don’t let it happen again”

Ahhh, the Dave Wannstedt days...