clearwater cadet

WTF! Can we all please stop trading to NE!

At always something!

They knew they were getting a new stadium and the tax payor were going to fund it when they bought the time. It why they paid so much. This is smoke and mirrors, it was all part of the deal.

What ever happened to Manny Lawson?

That's just dumb

Does team value include the stadium, the Erie County owns the stadium not the bills, I'm assuming the the cowboys, Rams, etc own there own stadiums so if you purchase them you would be buying the stadium as well?

Just once is all I want. Please god please.

He wasn't vaccinated

Totally agree, but the NFL is all about market size for TV contracts, I had read the biggest problem with Bills and Southern Ontario is that although there is 12 million in Southern Ontario which from a distance point of view would normally be part of the Bills market, but the bills can not count that as part of there market because the Canadian Broadcast System has the right show what ever game they want, making southern Ontario not counted as part of the going TV deals. Not sure if this is true, but make sense.

you are right I did look at it again it started in 2013 and runs thru 2023, with damages for relocation of 400,000,000 except for year 7 which was 28,000,000. The Toronto series ran from this 2008 to 2012, was suppose to run to 2013, Ted Roger dies Dec 2008 after they started the series. I still believe the Bills and WNY would not have made it to the 2013 lease if Roger was alive at that time. Once he died the whole Toronto thing lost a lot of steam. With out Rogers around to push the issue the series was a failure and ended early knowing the Rogers family would not have the ability to ultimately acquire the team. But going back to what I thought before, Ralph really didn't do anything to prevent a possible relocation to Toronto or anywhere, once Rogers passed, Ralph's plan A went up in smoke and we he was stuck looking for a new ownership, but he made sure there was a easy out in year 7 just so relocation was still a possibility. I'm just glad to work out for us.

I looked it up last night in was 28,000,000. in the seventh year of the current lease. Chump change to these owner. I wish the Pats would have gone under!

What was the poison pill in the lease deal? I remember it slightly, but I don't remember being such a big amount that it would deter anyone with the ability to buy a team for moving them thou? Ted Rogers passing had a lot to do with it as well. Think it was the Raiders not the Pats?

Its been a long time, but I don't remember him setting anything up to prevent the team from being moved, at least when they started the Toronto series. I remember a penalty for breaking the lease with county, but it was nothing significant. I really don't remember anything in which he went out of his way to keep the team in WNY. I'm sure he was a good person and good business man, I just don't think he was good owner. I alway thought as fan we deserved better.

I agree with you, but I believe he was planning to sell the team to Ted Rodgers and move them to Toronto at the time of his death, the only thing that stopped that is Ted died before Ralph at a much younger age. I don't miss Ralph either and this constant reminders of the competitive disadvantage that come with owning a team in WNY.

Maybin should have been a TE!

Travice Henry

who said he can't get it right? Say it, Say it https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DhafaW1uLE-4&ved=2ahUKEwjxss_vrYPwAhVlmeAKHVjLBYAQwqsBMAB6BAgDEAk&usg=AOvVaw03Zywo0M85KI7rxJYMCQcB

you know Fred, everyone knows Freddy. They should retire 22 because of him. https://images.app.goo.gl/HQrsGrTnnFPuu5q88 I think I'm in love.

Forget Reggie, Freddy Jackson, one of the best Bills ever.

Bills are a pass first team, I think going to be hard for any back to be effective unless it short yardage or pass catching out of the backfield and josh doesn't seem like a guy willing to check down a lot.

I guess there done pushing Waston agenda, so they to look for someone else to market now.

I thought Obada is a DE, and Short is a DT, I'm not really sure, I'm just asking?

Doesn't williams get 10 now?, why not give in 12 to keep him?

I like to open against the Jets.