OldTimer1960

Would love it, but I think the trade value is too much in Bills’ favor for Seattle to be interested.

If the secondary can’t cover for a bit, pass rush doesn’t have time to get the QB. In addition, if the corners can cover they can play more aggressively on D which would also help the pass rush. I’m not saying that you are wrong - both are important.

I look at it differently. I think they would play more varied defenses if they had a good CB opposite White.

Or they could try to trade up in round 1 for a corner that they like. I would not be surprised if Kyler Gordon was available and they liked him enough to take.

Unsure what they could be looking at that they would like right now. Siran Neal, Dane Jackson and Cam Lewis - don’t think any of them should be starting at CB for a team that hopes to get to and win the Super Bowl. Really, they need to do better than that if they want to beat Miami who now has maybe the best WR and TE combination in the league.

Do you think it likely that the Bills would consider a small trade up in round 1 to nab a CB?

Like the idea of Olave and your rationale, but I just think that unless addressed, the CB position will negate the additions on the DL. If you can’t cover, it is hard to get home on the pass rush. Bills are in an uncharacteristic and uncomfortable position at corner with White’s injury. I don’t agree that the Bills are really confident in Dane Jackson, either. They really need someone who can start if White is out and challenge Jackson for CB2 when White is healthy.

If they really thought that much of Levi Wallace they would have resigned him for what the Steelers gave him. 2yrs total $8M is a bargain for a good starting CB. They would have paid him, if they liked him as a starter or weren’t looking for an upgrade.

I also remember OJ not having success in his rookie year behind a poor OL.

I’m not anti-RB ever, but this OL is questionable going forward and was was worse than that last year. Fixing the OL before investing in a back early not only would help our existing RBs, but would help keep Allen from getting hurt. It’s all a system and a good pass catching back helps give the QB a nice safety valve so that he can dump it off to avoid big hits. I don’t think that Hall improves the run game much more than Singletary.

Well, yes maybe. I can argue that a good OL is a better way to have a good run game.

Yep, Breece Hall in the Bills’ backfield last year just would have gotten hit 1.5 yards in the backfield instead of 2 yards deep.

Well, I would not want to trouble you, your highness. Are you suggesting that if Tre White was healthy and they had more than a stop-gap at CB2, that would not have made a difference in giving up a FG in 13 seconds? No doubt that KC was/will still be a dynamic offense, but I would have liked the team’s chances better with White on the field and a more NFL caliber athlete opposite him.

You don’t think that Penn State has other talented players that the team might be doing due diligence on? I’d honestly be disappointed if they did not have someone at any of the major college pro days. Dotson (WR) and Ebeketie (DE) are two that they could have been there for. I may not be right, but I think you are way over-selling the magical coaching of DBs that this staff has done. I think a better description would be that they’ve been hiding weakness at CB for a few years and that cost them a game in the playoffs vs KC this year.

Wouldn’t be shocked at OL in first, but would be if the player is a G only. A guy who could compete with Spencer Brown at RT and could slide in to G would be on the radar, in my opinion. Still, hard to imagine leaving round 1 without a corner unless they plan to trade way up in round 2.

I think that Zion Johnson is a fine player and G is a big need, but compared to CB, G is not a premium position. In my opinion, they MUST have a viable starter at corner opposite Jackson (who is not an athletic prototype for the position) in case Tre White misses the first month or two of the season. A 2nd or 3rd round pick from a lower level of competition does not make me confident that they won’t be starting Jackson (a 7th round pick) and a major stop gap for the first 1/2 season.

Agree - Hill is a major outlier. Just because he is great, doesn’t mean that any 5’8” 170 lb fast guy will be equivalent. Hill was not a high draft choice either. just because Aaron Donald is outstanding, it doesn’t mean that it is wise to draft 285 lb DTs. Ed Oliver is a heck of an athlete for his size, but nowhere near Donald in the NFL.

Agree- I think Hall is OK, but not in round 1 with huge need at corner. If they aren’t going corners, I could see OL or WR - anything else would be a head scratcher i think It would be too early for a tiny WR at 57.

I would not like this outcome at all. Better score every drive, because opponents will have a field day against a rookie from a lower level of competition and Dane Jackson to start the year.

I’m ok taking WR if they have a solution at CB

How does that counter my argument? They have signed 1 premium free agent - at the most premium position besides QB. Signing even a good FA CB would cost a ton (not quite as much as Von Miller, but a lot).

Jackson does not have the kind of speed to match many receivers in the league. Maybe his smarts and other athletic attributes can allow him to play adequately at this level, but if your argument is that the Bills must get more high end offensive weapons, then how do you feel comfortable with an average at best (by NFL standards) athlete trying to cover those high end athletes on the opposition? Beyond that, who is starting along with Jackson of Tre misses say the first month or more? In the newly loaded AFC, losing a game or two early could leave you on the outside looking in at the playoffs.

The argument about no 1000 yard rushers ignores that the run blocking has been weak and that they don’t run the ball a lot. I’m all for improving the run game, but I think the beast way to do that is to improve the OL.

And the D wasn’t good enough to hold a lead for 13 seconds.

Says who? Disaster awaits if you start Dane and a rookie who isn’t ready for the NFL. Everyone will be complaining that they “could not even get one stop to win the game”. Beyond Safety if White is missing, the CB spot, as currently manned, is by far the worst position on the team- and it is a premium position. Disagree - does not mean I am right or that you are wrong.