OldTimer1960

I seem to recall that the Chiefs passed their way downfield in 13 seconds for a FG and then again in OT for the win. I know that some want to blame the pass rush, the DBs have to take a lot of that heat. I don’t remember Mahomes having all day to throw on either drive. Of course coverage is helped by a strong pass rush, just as the pass rush is helped by strong coverage in the secondary.

I don’t see Singletary as being very limited because of his speed. He is fine as long as he isn’t being hit in the backfield or having to elude defenders jut to get to the line of scrimmage. A faster RB behind a weak OL will still have nowhere to run. RB and other positions are not just about straight line speed. Vision, quickness, decisiveness and a bit of power all play into it. Nobody is saying that Hall might not be an upgrade over Singletary. Only that the position in today’s game is less important than it used to be. Beyond Derrick Henry and Jonathan Taylor, what RB in the league is really dominant?

3rd-5th are mid-rounds in my view. I understand the cap issue and that they can’t afford to sign a top level FA CB. It is an uncomfortable position to go into the draft with such a glaring need at an important position. Every round that they pass on CB in this year’s draft increases the urgency and lessens the chances of finding someone who would be good/ready enough to play early. I would like another very good WR prospect and to shore up the OL, but I think they almost have to take a CB in the first regardless of whether it might be a bit of a reach.

Keyshawn Johnson was very good. The Bills would be doing well to get that level of player with the 25th pick.

We all are, but season could be lost early if you trot out Dane Jackson and a mid-round rookie or Cam Lewis as starters for the fist month or more.

Who is CB1 if White misses the first month or two?

Don’t rule out an OT, especially if he can also play G. What would you use to trade up 24 spots? That’s going to cost a lot of draft capital.

Who is going to block for him? OL needs reinforcements more than the RBs do. CB is a MUCH bigger need. I would put another WR above RB as well. Think back over the past several drafts. Every year ther are “great” RB prospects, but yet there are only a few RBs in the league who really cause defenses problems consistently.

Would love it, but I think the trade value is too much in Bills’ favor for Seattle to be interested.

If the secondary can’t cover for a bit, pass rush doesn’t have time to get the QB. In addition, if the corners can cover they can play more aggressively on D which would also help the pass rush. I’m not saying that you are wrong - both are important.

I look at it differently. I think they would play more varied defenses if they had a good CB opposite White.

Or they could try to trade up in round 1 for a corner that they like. I would not be surprised if Kyler Gordon was available and they liked him enough to take.

Unsure what they could be looking at that they would like right now. Siran Neal, Dane Jackson and Cam Lewis - don’t think any of them should be starting at CB for a team that hopes to get to and win the Super Bowl. Really, they need to do better than that if they want to beat Miami who now has maybe the best WR and TE combination in the league.

Do you think it likely that the Bills would consider a small trade up in round 1 to nab a CB?

Like the idea of Olave and your rationale, but I just think that unless addressed, the CB position will negate the additions on the DL. If you can’t cover, it is hard to get home on the pass rush. Bills are in an uncharacteristic and uncomfortable position at corner with White’s injury. I don’t agree that the Bills are really confident in Dane Jackson, either. They really need someone who can start if White is out and challenge Jackson for CB2 when White is healthy.

If they really thought that much of Levi Wallace they would have resigned him for what the Steelers gave him. 2yrs total $8M is a bargain for a good starting CB. They would have paid him, if they liked him as a starter or weren’t looking for an upgrade.

I also remember OJ not having success in his rookie year behind a poor OL.

I’m not anti-RB ever, but this OL is questionable going forward and was was worse than that last year. Fixing the OL before investing in a back early not only would help our existing RBs, but would help keep Allen from getting hurt. It’s all a system and a good pass catching back helps give the QB a nice safety valve so that he can dump it off to avoid big hits. I don’t think that Hall improves the run game much more than Singletary.

Well, yes maybe. I can argue that a good OL is a better way to have a good run game.

Yep, Breece Hall in the Bills’ backfield last year just would have gotten hit 1.5 yards in the backfield instead of 2 yards deep.

Well, I would not want to trouble you, your highness. Are you suggesting that if Tre White was healthy and they had more than a stop-gap at CB2, that would not have made a difference in giving up a FG in 13 seconds? No doubt that KC was/will still be a dynamic offense, but I would have liked the team’s chances better with White on the field and a more NFL caliber athlete opposite him.

You don’t think that Penn State has other talented players that the team might be doing due diligence on? I’d honestly be disappointed if they did not have someone at any of the major college pro days. Dotson (WR) and Ebeketie (DE) are two that they could have been there for. I may not be right, but I think you are way over-selling the magical coaching of DBs that this staff has done. I think a better description would be that they’ve been hiding weakness at CB for a few years and that cost them a game in the playoffs vs KC this year.

Wouldn’t be shocked at OL in first, but would be if the player is a G only. A guy who could compete with Spencer Brown at RT and could slide in to G would be on the radar, in my opinion. Still, hard to imagine leaving round 1 without a corner unless they plan to trade way up in round 2.

I think that Zion Johnson is a fine player and G is a big need, but compared to CB, G is not a premium position. In my opinion, they MUST have a viable starter at corner opposite Jackson (who is not an athletic prototype for the position) in case Tre White misses the first month or two of the season. A 2nd or 3rd round pick from a lower level of competition does not make me confident that they won’t be starting Jackson (a 7th round pick) and a major stop gap for the first 1/2 season.

Agree - Hill is a major outlier. Just because he is great, doesn’t mean that any 5’8” 170 lb fast guy will be equivalent. Hill was not a high draft choice either. just because Aaron Donald is outstanding, it doesn’t mean that it is wise to draft 285 lb DTs. Ed Oliver is a heck of an athlete for his size, but nowhere near Donald in the NFL.