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Terrible penalty. Just awful.

After we bring the safeties up look for a play action pass this drive

He wouldn’t be wrong, even if he might be obnoxious

They got like 3 yards with that push. Thank god no td

Well, there’s the predictable quick inside run

Drew loves the sneaks and they run a lot of fb dives here

The day you raise the red flag, we should all worry! we are halfway through the season and a strength has disappeared from last year. I think it’s a fair concern in evaluating the first half. When a predicated area of concern turns around and actually struggles — that’s exactly the type of spot we should be watching Or he just didn’t want to work with those guys. Or those guys didn’t want to work with him. Or he was just really into fresh blood in the building and this was the best scheme available when hiring. But yea... I wanted marrone to hire kromer when it was clear our line was struggling and he was on his way out in Chicago. Roman was also on my list of potential guys to bump out Hackett. I think Roman is possibly the best OL schemer, and kromer is the best OL technique coach in the league in my book. It’s no shock we did exceptionally well with the pair

Having seen pretty much every snap of both teams — i think both are overachieving their talent a little bit with their records. I do think the saints are the better team, but travel and weather miiiiight be enough for them to come out flat. This is probably the first post-bounty-pill-divorce-gate season that Sean Payton has felt like the Super Bowl coach again though... so i wouldn’t bet they are flat... hope they miss on the risks they take.

A few things— I think our standard for contender is lower than theirs. Most people consider that championship contender not playoff contender, but with us absent from the playoffs so long our perspective is skewed i think their comment that the margin is razor thin is very fair on this roster. We need depth at key spots, we need a pass rush and we need something to stretch the field to be legit. Benjamin might fill one of those needs and buy a little wiggle room but the margin is still tight.

Also of note: his 32m signing bonus is paid already...so the contract isn’t as obscene and is easier to get out of if you really have to.

Said plenty about brees. franchise qbs don’t come available without risk. You are either betting a 21 year old beats the odds, or you are hoping a 27 year old coming with either injuries or inconsistencies steps up. If the docs like his shoulder, you consider pretty much anything to get him

But will he get over 5 pages in responses AND get the most likes in the thread? go on record now!

Real question: can mods just swap it to a reasonable one and then he can edit if he wants still?

My man.... another Tyrod thread from you?

If you add losing a season out of the gate to lack of consistent pass rush— it’ll be hard for him to be great value unless he steps up his game. I wouldn’t say full on bust if he can be really excellent situationally though.

Might be a little overstated there, Robert. im not arguing that it’s end all be all or that 70 vs 77 is hugely impactful... but over halfway through the season having it lower than heaving the ball into the 8th row is indicative of the fact that he’s giving up nearly nothing to opposing teams AND creating turnovers.

I think a valid point but rolling off 6 straight is a feat in this league, even against teams that are on the weaker end of the spectrum. We dropped ugly games against Carolina from that run— and the jets aren’t great. i don’t think the saints are ELITE but they are a good team and handling business. We will see how they respond to the weather and how we rebound from the loss... game could break either way. On a neutral site 10 times, they probably win 6-7 times at this crossroad. In buffalo- probably close to a coin flip

The other amazing stat is that qb rating against him is lower than qb rating just throwing the ball away.

Drew goes from top 3 to more like top 10 — not sure that’s mediocre. There’s a drop but it’s not near as large as the reputation

That’ll be tough. As much as we love whites rookie campaign, I saw a graphic going into today’s game that QB rating throwing at lattimore is lower than the rating on intentional throw aways. the saints are a good team but on the road in the northeast this is a chance to steal a win we shouldn’t normally get

Define a lot

Or if looking at your skill set you see that you dont have some of those ultra premiere shots then maybe you look at those rounds and think you are more 80s and you got lucky in the early rounds with a good up and down from the deep rough and a few putts you dont expect to regularly make Turnovers are great and our ball control likewise very good but we definitely need a pass rush answer, and a reliable RB2, and hopefully KB is the WR1. We could still go either way from here but it feels like we are a middle of the pack team that was overachieving

Im not a big fan of the phrase must win but this feels like itll be a tipping point Hopefully all those vets we brought in really get the locker room bought in at this point and the team shows up. The Carolina guys have history with the saints too - which might help up the energy all week

Truly as a team that wants to hang its hat on grinding out tough games its odd that we didnt do more to have a viable RB2 or better front 7 on defense.

H&H were relatively known quantities Poyer is the real shocker Holmes hasnt done near enough to make this type of list imo. He has 11 catches at less than 9 ypc (sub 100 yards) and many here thought he could be a #2.