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Injuries today are hang nails and paper cuts stuff you’d never even hear about Im august yet alone September (or January)

Injuries were impactful if I recall he was a single digit wonderlic guy, which indicates totally not caring, or having some sort of learning disability and/or generally being illiterate (literacy comment not said to mock - his score was in line with straight guessing) He apparently was partying too much and frankly the lizard people stuff that he talked about obviously indicates something wasn’t going well upstairs. very talented guy but you take injuries and roll them with what I think was more than just a motivation challenge but genuine mental health concerns and it makes some sense. how do you build culture without being able to pick the coach? Or any continuity between skills and schemes? not saying Whaley was a star but will say the overall situation was disastrous and I think much harder to pin fully on him.

said the guy going by freak-o based on light message board posting

so you see no reason the dots would be connected but are trying to find a way to connect them?

what does this pic have to do with Buffalo?

put another way, let’s say you need 180 points out of the two guys to get a ring pretty darn reliably over a couple year stretch. under that threshold you could luck info one if the chips fall just right in a season Reid 90/100 Belichick 90/100 McDermott 85/100 Brady 95/100 mahomes 90/100 josh 90/100 mcnabb 85/100 big Ben 85/100 eli 80/100 dak 80/100 you could stretch it out to add a metric for the remaining roster and touch up numbers a bit but I think a lot of us feel like the above as a bar napkin summary of the challenge. Josh qualifies while McDermott is close but not quite. Together they will compete but we may need to go find our “mahomes” or “Allen” at head coach to upgrade from our very good “mcnabb” At head coach currently

no offense but I think you are overshooting the talent left off. I think essentially any of those are a breeze to get on the practice squad or ***** an equivalent peer from another squad. There’s no shortage of late rounders or high picks that washed out available around the league especially if a guy like claypool can be active on special teams

I don’t know- that our most consistent receiver is setting up a run at the 53 could be compliment to him or concern about our question marks above him him being among our best could be a huge blessing or season derailing curse

17 years is such a lame thing to point to at this point…

it’ll be a real damn shame if you are posting this about Josh in 20 years

and even in that scenario it becomes a lot of money for a guy you hope is behind Kincaid and a WR by design -

they aren’t paying a qb yet so they get a few absurd moves

I’ll say, and not to single out this op, but in general this board doesn’t have great culture of setting the stage for conversations when starting threads. We often get “good article” behind a paywall or “great discussion” and a 2 hour video a fast summary with a few of the more interesting points is a game changer for me as someone that doesn’t have many subscriptions or the bandwidth to listen to extended commentary that often

I recall you liking the Jarvis Landry comp

We all get it. Being top 32 in the world at just about anything means you aren’t literally a bum.

he’s a half step ahead of fitz. And while we all love fitz… that’s only marginally a compliment thats why it was so strange that @GunnerBillinsisted Josh was literally identical in quality so many times for so many years. That he event stretched it off the field to specify that Josh wasn’t even better a golf or magic tricks was super odd at the time.

or maybe I’m crazy and they move them all around a lot

I don’t know, I haven’t seen you prove it yet seems questionable. Are there any posts of you saying he is not Ryan tannehill?

and cheetah is quietly starting to chirp about his deal too

But gambling was happening whether or not sponsor dollars flowed

Not a huge gambling guy myself but not opposed to it for others I don’t think a draft kings commercial or sponsored ticker dies anything huge to increase the risk of fixing games. I never understood that argument.

you bring in diggs to try to win while you can still make those splash moves I mean that’s 2 out of 17 games shifting

If you only care about wins over a month or two and give no consideration to how they are happening - it’s often a fast track ignoring problems that will catch up to you. as FC points out, we were winning but on the back of Josh running well and struggling in the passing game. Is that sustainable long term or just a quick bandaid? when fitz was getting every bounce and started with a lot of wins but a lot of underlying red flags, did those catch up for the “I only care about wins” crowd? yea, it’s one thing to say it about a random game here or there but eventually the other stats matter and if you are winning more than the stats indicate you should- there’s a good chance of regressing back to the outcomes other stats would predict (especially with questionable passing stats)

the only stat I care about is wins over a short stretch is a great way to not sustainably win over a long stretch.

plenty as in just above the bare minimum or plenty as in among the most in the league Also, how’s that stress looking if Josh is only minimally running?