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In part, there are just sooooo many interchangeable guys that deep in a class. 6 ft tall, 200 lbs, can run at least a 4.6ish and catch isn’t that rare of a body type or baseline skill set and it’s a position a lot of kids gravitate towards. Mentioned it earlier- I can’t speak for that post but I think the comments less about him being bad for being religious and more about the idea that McD might overvalue guys that he relates to on that front. We’ve seen the commentary bubble up a few places (peterman for instance)

At this point I assume 1-5 are CB, JB, zay, Foster and Roberts with some confidence that leaves duke, sills, and I have a sneaky suspicion they add one more low end vet that has teams experience fighting for 6 vs practice squad. Not a knockout group but looks to be trending the right direction (knock on wood)

Are you really upset that they got their RB in the mid third when the “run started in the late third” (of course ignoring that we and Chicago both picked mid 3 rb) For Knox... well, I ascribe this one to the patriots method of finding needs and creating tiers of players. Once you get to the last guy in the tier you have to try to go get him. They clearly took a need but they waited until just before a perceived drop which is the way to do it if going for need

Though a small piece may be that 6’7 curse for qbs. Seems to not go over well and spook scouts. Im not saying 2 inches accounts for all but likely is a factor between being 3rd an off the board and whatever went ahead of tyree

I’d say the answer likely lands on film not on paper

Happens every year with a few highly mocked WRs it seems. I think it’s just a matter of #16 and #20 off the board at we being such a slim margin but only so many will be picked and by day 3 there’s a lot of dumb luck with fit, and scouts trying to grab pet project guys they fell for.

I’ve linked once or twice an article about an nba GM that doesn’t let his scouts compare guys (particularly non-traditional races for a position) to other guys of that race. Because even professional scouts jump straight to jordy Nelson, Edelman and welker for white receivers as an example. Or as we saw, with a black qb. its not so much a knock on the discussion but popped to mind as even scouts struggle to do cross race comparisons. I’d be curious to see some more comparables that aren’t a “less athletic Nelson” or thielen

We are officially in the phase of the offseason where duke can voluntarily lift weights at the facility, right? My point is that their commitment to him is so low and hands on contact with him so nearly non existent that he could’ve said that duke has the makings of a hall of famer and it’d ring hollow. Nothing he said tonight would make me think the passed on a day 2 WR or are cutting zay because of how they say they feel about duke. He’s a guy with talent but we haven’t even matched the first number on the lottery ticket yet. All he could do tonight was acknowledge that he was a lottery ticket. Everyone knows that. If you read more into (any) comments tonight, enjoy the high.

As opposed to not thinking someone on the roster can play?

Thanks!

Dont you work in a locker room?!? Or gym?!? Or are you actually a very modest irs accountant despite the bravado here?!?

The latter point probably helps but ultimately money, scheme, and strength of the existing position group weigh heaviest on these kids. The “still building” is a bit overstated as we are officially nearing our crest and the roster is getting crowded.

They aren’t that high on duke. The guy got a reserves/future contract out of the cfl and has participated in what for us? maybe foster but you are crazy if you think duke is dictating any roster decision at all right now Or he’s a fine backup to keep? Why does he have to be a starter? I’m fine with him as #4

Hopefully this sticks to discussion of confirmed signings and the other thread can be wish lists and rumors

Yea- poorly organized unless the OP is hardcore in updating

Objectively, as an outsider, Allen’s not yet an established guy. As optimistic as we are, between him, and Anderson being a million years old it’s not a terrible spot to at least take his shot

Nice get for the practice squad.

Counterintuitive but hopefully we have enough diamonds that it’s really unlikely that a UDFA has much chance

Again fine enough. Good edge of the roster selection. I’d legit pursue the buff guys hard as UDFA now though, and I’m not a UB homer but a good young WR and a practice squad qb would be good gets in a few mins.

Yup but at a decent position for it

Here’s where you start weighing which udfas you like that wouldn’t like signing based on the depth chart. Maybe not BPA, but hardest to acquire once it wraps.

That’s a lot of comp picks projected.

Really think it’s an even third?

I think he meant it less as an objection and more as a “mcd might like the kid more than he should” may or or may not be fair.

This one truly feels like proehl did. Personal connection very deep in the draft that doesn’t actually seem to have a real fit. Not a huge deal but I wouldn’t expect to see him play much if at all. He has to leap frog several guys (including a special teams ace at his position group) to even dress to get special teams reps.