Talley56

There are probably some people who still think we used to have a starting quarterback named Ryan Fitzgerald.

He did, but he also made 2 games winning field goals and basically beat the Packers and Dolphins for us.

As much as I would have loved to have had Polian back if he's going to allow one disgruntled former head coach's opinions sway him then maybe we're better off without him.

Dick Vermeil was out of coaching for about 15 years then came back and led the Rams to a Superbowl championship.

I hardly blame Chandler for this play. Diving on that ball or any fumble for that matter would have been very difficult. This was squarely on Brown who had an easy TD run and let it get knocked out of his hands.

Heck I'd take a road playoff game over a date with anyone at this point.

At this point I'm ready to give any QB a try. Osweiler has played behind maybe the best QB ever for three years. You have to think he's going to want his shot at being a starter really soon somewhere and Manning could play for another 3 years. I wouldn't be opposed.

Yeah, I see your point. It's nice that we get to play the Bengals next year as it seems like the Browns are the team we always draw from the AFC north.

Maybe this time we can beat KC and Houston.

Sanchez is a good option. He didn't live up to the #5 pick in the draft but he's an experienced player who's made it to 2 championship games and actually looked good at times for the Jets where QBs never succeed. I also thought he played well with the Eagles this year aside from the INT against the Redskins that basically ended their playoff hopes. It was the Eagels' defense that costed them this year IMO. Sanchez is constantly knocked for one clumsy play (butt fumble). Key word being ONE clumsy play out of the many different plays he has run in his career. I would be satisfied with him for the time being (I'd take Foles too).

I don't know how it could have possibly been a penalty. He clearly lowered his shoulder into the shoulder of the receiver. No helmet/neck, or lowering head into him at all. We were arguing this at the bar I was at. I'd say we were split 50/50 but I'm sorry after watching the replay it looked clear as day that it was shoulder to shoulder. But I'd say the roughing the passer on the next drive was a definite make-up call as the hit on Orton looked clean.

In looking at the fact that the Chargers out-played us this year whereas we had every opportunity in the world to beat KC I think it's better that we will end up playing them.

Just like teams who win games due to an easy schedule will tell you "we can only play who's on our schedule" I say we can only beat the players they decide to put in against us. We won at NE, and while yes it would have been much more satisfying to beat NE in a meaningful game with Tom Brady in the entire game if this is the best I can get I'm happy with it. Go Bills!

Senior in HS working at Wendy's trying to sneak glances past my managers on a little snowy TV in the back room (mostly used for training videos). I saw the "winning" field goal then went back about my day. It wasn't until my shift ended and I got home that I found out the real ending.

I recall KC going to San Diego on the last week of the season last year playing all 2nd stringers (including Chase Daniel) and very nearly beating the Chargers who were playing a win or go home game.

Not a fair comparison. We were at home when EJ played Miami and on the road when Orton played them. Orton may not have put up crazy numbers in those games but I'd be willing to bet EJ does something to throw those games away. It may not have been much but Orton was an upgrade from EJ.

2011 Colts pre-Luck = 2-14 2012 Colts with Luck = 11-5 2011 Seahawks pre-Wilson = 7-9 2012 Seahawks with Wilson = 11-5 Need I say more? Definitely Luck

Say what you want about Orton. I know he wasn't great but I still say we don't beat the Lions, Vikings, or Packers with EJ. I know Orton didn't do a lot in the Green Bay game but I feel like he managed it just barely well enough to help our defense win which I'm not confident EJ would have done.

He ran well behind some pretty bad offensive lines here (not to mention QBs who were so bad that defenses stacked to stop the run knowing they didn't need to worry about the passing game). The trade was a huge mistake.

Agreed, I was a little irritated when the Colts got to draft Andrew Luck. Having Manning and Luck plus playing in a division full of teams that don't know how to get out of their own way means we will probably continue to see them in the playoffs every year for the next 15 years as they have been for most of the previous 15.

What gets me on the 3rd and 22 conversion is if we only rushed 3 where in the world was the safety help on the deep ball? I thought that was one of the reasons why you would only rush three to make sure no one gets deep with one on one coverage?

Is this going on the assumption that Denver will lose to Cincinnati tomorrow clinching home field for NE before next week? Or are you saying that NE would beat us with their 3rd stringers?

I know a lot of people are sick of hearing the ref bashing but that's not what I'm doing I am just baffled by this particular call. Earlier in the 3rd Qtr today Derek Carr launches a pass way out of bounds from inside the pocket facing pressure and the ball was no where near a receiver. I ask, how was this any different than the intentional grounding called on us against Miami that was ruled a safety? Not sure who all caught that from today's game as it sounded like nothing was really said about it but it left some people in our Bills bar questioning it. Anyone know why these were called differently? Again, not dwelling on the officiating, just confused by this one.

As much as I want to say snoozefest, boring, blah blah blah, in years past a week 16 game between the Bills and Raiders would have probably been just as irrelevant.

I stand corrected