BADOLBILZ

One of the great things about Beane is that he lies his assoff.......but fans still think he's "usually pretty straight forward". The key is setting expectations low. It's not complicated..........but some GM's just can't do it.

That used to be the case. I don't think it's that simple anymore.

That's Josh Allen's decision to make..........and he and McD aren't golfing buddies. Allen removed the chip from his shoulder and made a 180 degree turn on offseason work after he "arrived" in the 13 seconds game. He traded Britt in for a girl who definitely AIN'T moving to Buffalo. So he's changed his mind on matters of professional and personal import before.

If it helps retain Josh Allen, I'm all for it. Next offseason JA17's cap hits start getting so large and his remaining term so short that he can pretty much call his shot on where he wants to play if the Bills can't get him to sign an extension. His home state of California.........with offensive geniuses McVay and Shanahan.........and the promise of not having to face Mahomes in the playoffs until a Super Bowl........that would have to be very enticing. Bills need to be ALL ABOUT supporting Josh Allen. The hope of Belichick making a difference might be enough to tip the scales if they are otherwise all-in on giving Allen weapons.

Sounds reasonable.

The positional break down looks right but I'd rather see a CB than a safety. Using a second round pick on a safety in a mediocre safety draft would not be ideal from the positional standpoint. You can draft and develop safeties from all over the board and they are a dime a dozen in free agency. Be pretty dumb to take an "ok" prospect safety at 60, IMO. Two outside WR and two OL would be very logical for this draft class.

I'm not disputing that Hill isn't great now. But he wasn't great before Mahomes. Those guys were losing at home in the playoffs to the likes of Mike Mularkey and Marcus Mariotta despite having a QB who was considered a top 10-12 QB in the league at the very least. They didn't have "IT" until Mahomes arrived. The Chiefs stuck with Hill thru a period of his life when he was liable to punch a pregnant women in the stomach or break his sons arm. He could have easily washed out of the league if he were with other less-tolerant franchises or had even just had his career disrupted by suspensions or trades earlier in his development to places he didn't fit. A LOT had to go right to get Hill to the past two seasons. Even then, there is the feeling that he could Antonio-Brown himself out of the league at any minute because he is still always a person of interest in some legal matter. If Hill never plays another down do the pro football writer's ever vote him into the HOF? No. We can say that with certainty. 10K yards is a long way from the bar as an accumulator nowadays. And don't forget, he's not a 3 time SB winner. He left KC and the team won 2 SB's.

We will have to agree to disagree. If the Chiefs don't get to Mahomes and Reid gets fired after blowing that 18 point lead at home to Mike Mularkey and Marcus Mariotta then who knows which way the Kelce/Hill careers go. They weren't moving the needle. I mean, it's false to claim that the Chiefs were seen as loaded with playmakers before Mahomes arrived. They signed Watkins because even the Chiefs didn't think they had a WR1. Mahomes changed the perspective on Kelce, Hill and Reid. He made a lot of Chiefs players household names.

It's not "factual"........because it wasn't "luck". Mahomes made it possible. Without a truly great QB, Kelce and Hill are more likely to have finished in the Hall of "Good" along with a guy like Eric Moulds who has never really sniffed the HOF. Pre-Mahomes Andy Reid was 11-13 career in the playoffs and 1-4 in conference championship games. Then he got upset WITH Mahomes in his first title game. Obviously Reid is the only HC to blow an 18 point lead or greater in the playoffs more than once. And he did it thrice!

You got it backwards. They were good without Mahomes. They became great because of Mahomes. Nobody was saying HOF with regard to those guys before Mahomes got there. Not even Andy Reid........who was one of the great choke artists in playoff history. He had blown a 28 point lead and an 18 point lead in the playoffs as Chiefs HC. (In fact, he owns 3 of the 4 biggest blown leads in Chiefs 65 year history and all were in the playoffs). His time was running out in KC before Mahomes arrived and changed the narrative.

Relationships make deals happen. I'm not sure they make that trade with any other team in the AFC if that team is picking 27th(meaning they are good). If you are going to help an AFC rival out you better be getting the best of the exchange........and even at the time it seemed like at best a discount. But again, new regimes are also brimming with confidence in themselves and often end up getting taken to the cleaners in personnel swaps. It's the first place to look if you are a contender looking to make a one-sided deal.

Point is..........the 2017 Chiefs weren't even close to being in a Super Bowl like those Dolphins. They were the 4th seed at 10-6 and had actually lost to 9-7 Buffalo at home that season. They had been nothing more than an easy-out in the playoffs each year when lead by Andy Reid.......a HC with 0 SB wins and a history of choking and poor game management. Don Shula was the antithesis of Andy Reid at that point. But history is written by the winners. When the Bills played the Chiefs in 2017 Kelce and Tyreek didn't do anything that day. Their stories hadn't been written yet because the outcome was very much in doubt to that point. Alex Smith.........a very good bridge QB.......just couldn't get the ball to them against a decent Bills secondary. It took an elite QB to elevate that roster. They pursued Sammy Watkins because despite good statistics........what they had in Kelce and Hill hadn't proven to be nearly enough. Generational QB's and winning cultures DRASTICALLY change careers. I look at guys like Aaron School and Kyle Williams with the Bills. If either are on a dynastic team their careers might have become HOF worthy. Schobel probably plays another 5 years. The losing not only created a lack of opportunity but it created a disincentive to push for individual greatness. Put Chris Jones or Tyreek Hill on those drought Bills and who knows what happens. They were "just guys" in college. Couldn't pick 2 more perfect examples.

I think you are forgetting that the Dolphins were the AFC's best team already when they got Marino. And they had Shula, who was then considered possibly the greatest coach of all-time. They had just reached the SB with Strock and Woodley as their QB's. The 2016 Chiefs were ahead of the Bills.........but by a slimmer margin than some may recall. The teams had been closely bunched talent-wise in the years prior to McBeane tearing the Bills roster down in 2017. Those Bills/Chiefs games were closely contested and often ended up separating the playoff team from the non-playoff team during Marrone/Rex years. But yes, ultimately the Bills ended up birthing a Chiefs dynasty. Probably because McDermott felt inclined to help his buddy Andy. That could have been the result in the 1980's with Marino though too.

Yeah as I said elsewhere, there hasn't been a proven elite WR in their prime to sign a deal since Davante Adams and then Tyreek. When Jefferson hits the market, he will re-set it.

Actually, the curse of the Bambino wasn't a one man heist like this was. The forgotten story is that the Yankees actually stole the Red Sox brain trust and a lot of other really good players in the next few seasons and didn't turn into a dynasty in earnest until they had pretty much picked the Red Sox bones clean. It would be like if the Bills got Brady and THEN took Belichick and Scarnecchia and Gronk and a bunch of other key players. That gutting, combined with a Red Sox owner that was more interested in other things than baseball doomed the Red Sox to decades of losing. I used to draw the comparison to the Bills passing on Marino for Kelly and then watching Marino quickly have the greatest single season of any QB ever and reach a SB while Kelly was off playing in another league altogether. They essentially gift wrapped Marino to their biggest rival by not selecting him.........so very similar. The only hope was that when Allen caught up the Bills would "out-personnel" the Chiefs the way the Bills did with the Dolphins(despite the Fish having the greatest HC of his time and the better passer). Unfortunately, the Chiefs have done a good job with personnel to stay one step ahead of the Bills the whole time. This situation is just so unique.........having a draft pick you traded away prevent you from probably winning 2 SB's. Much of the league's fans don't see it that way because the Bills are bowing out of the playoffs early........but that's what's happened. They probably win 2 of the last 3 at least without Mahomes in the way.

The rationale is explained in the article. Basically new regime, new priorities. Those situations are often ripe for the plucking by established organizations. They all want their own guys and are brimming with confidence in their own decision making. See the Bills trading the #10 pick to the Chiefs back in 2017.........even though, on paper, they themselves were desperate for a QB. Patriots, Rams, Eagles and Jaguars also bolstered their rosters for longer playoff runs by picking from the Bills roster as well. Similar thing happened when the 2000 team got broken up when Donahoe took over.

I see him as a 3rd rounder. But I'm about boundary receivers in this draft and I don't really see him as one of those.

Yeah and one other disservice of the drought was that a lot of Bills fans didn't follow the league as closely during it and don't have a good frame of reference. Prime Roethlisberger and Rodgers were much more physically gifted than Tom Brady. It wasn't even close. They were supposed to own the league. Goodell literally changed the way the sport is played to protect those 2 golden boys because they wouldn't conform to the Brady/Brees/Manning style of existing solely as pocket passers. And despite having the league shaped to their preference they still only won 3 combined SB's.........and one was at the expense of the other. At least Pittsburgh had the excuse of having lost 3 conference title games(2 with Ben R) to Tom Brady. The Packers fell short of reaching SB's because they consistently failed to put enough receiving talent around Aaron Rodgers. By the time they finally decided to invest capital in WR talent, Rodgers was 39 and had one foot out the door and the other on a banana peel.

Yeah the reality when you have a Josh Allen type instead of a Brady/Mahomes(whose primary purpose in life is to win 7-8 SB's) is that you gotta' build like you are trying to beat THE REST of the league and hope that the tournament falls in your favor. That's how the Rams got their SB win 3 years ago. That's how the Steelers made 3 trips to the SB and won 2 during the Brady era even though the Patriots OWNED Cowher/Roethlisberger/Tomlin in the playoffs. All the more reason to stack high end receiving talent around Allen and try to give him the longest career possible so that he can continue his passive training approach to the offseasons and still play long enough to win a SB or two even if Mahomes continues to be focused/obsessed with overtaking Brady as the GOAT.

Yeah AJ Brown has separated from Metcalf but DK is still really good. If they could get him for a second round pick...........that would be a great get, IMO. If the draft were to go the way the mock community expects then the part of the WR group that drops way off by 60 is definitely the boundary WR. DK is a legit boundary option and he's been a better player in the playoffs than the regular season. Likely because of his physicality. Good fit for late season games in Highmark stadium, IMO.

They didn't dump Diggs because of the contract. They dumped him IN SPITE of the contract. His attitude and declining play were the top 2 factors. I don't think they want another big contract at ANY position. But I suspect that's a fluid situation depending on the player. I don't think guys like Aiyuk and Higgins would be appealing enough to pay $30M aav. They have never been the primary option for the good iterations of their current teams but will command contracts that might look like 80%-90% of Justin Jefferson value.

Shill Capaccio is the worst about that stuff. What rock were you under all offseason? Everyone outside of Buffalo thought the Bills were trying to move Diggs. The Bills give the local media exactly ZERO insight into what they are doing/thinking.

Perhaps, but this was a lot more brazen than what Lynch did. Lynch didn't even own up to driving he car to my knowledge and there was no video. It was a glancing blow and not a lot of other proof other than the accounts of some people who were also presumably out boozing. This was an outright wreck of cars in broad daylight that he admitted to causing with supporting video of it and him fleeing the scene and phone record of him calling the rental car company to tell them he wrecked the car as he was walking away. They know for a fact where he was at before the accident (bar) and he admitted driving. Up to 8 felony counts. There is a lot more there for the legal system to work with than the Lynch case.

Ultimately, as I see it, the problem with these arguments that @Alphadawg7 and others are making about either not needing a great WR or "trading up for a stud WR never works" is that there just isn't much context. It's derivative of the argument that teams with league leading rushers never win the SB anymore..............when that used to be fairly common.............that was a legitimate proof of change in the league. And the flip side of that is that teams with superstars at other positions do win SB's on the regular. You can identify the other side of the argument. You can't identify the other side of the argument with these WR narratives that are being created. Trading up OR trading back in a draft for anything other than a QB rarely moves the needle to "SB winner" for a franchise. The league changed in 2010. By 2018 when the Bills were able to get Josh Allen with pick #7 an influx of QB talent had begun. Young athletes were being steered into passing game positions. No longer were there just 3-5 teams that had an incredibly talented QB option. At the same time, WR talent was following suit. What's happened, in general, is that the arms race has shifted from QB to WR. To even reach the SB in this era of relative abundance of QB talent you pretty much need 2 stud receiving targets. Even the Pats had Gronk and Edelman. The Chiefs second options the last 2 years had nearly 1,000 yards receiving in the regular season. And those are the closest things to exceptions. Most that reach the SB have greater talents. I just don't think there is a definitive argument about which is the way to get them. And we're just pretending there is by creating these narratives that don't really tell us much.

Hopefully the direction he's headed in is incarceration. What he did warrants it. So whether he is a WR1 in the future or not, who knows, lot's of WR's have outstanding starts and flame out. But yes, he filled that WR1 role more than adequately for KC as a rookie. People act like they had no receivers the past 2 seasons but they had at least 2 pass catchers in the top 32 in production.......something only a handful of other teams could say(obviously)..........and in each case they were extremely high efficiency players and made a big impact for them in the playoffs.