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Kincaid entered the NFL as a TE in name only. Comparing his production to real TE rookie seasons is the bad take. He was put in the slot and fed the Cole Beasley diet as a 24 year old rookie and that lead to a bunch of catches but no yac and no red zone impact. He literally put up numbers that got Cole Beasley cut after the 2021 season. He supposedly had the best hands in the draft in 2023 but he had a woeful second season filled with big drops and an inability to make a contested catch. This is a guy they traded UP for in the first round. Yeah, he has sucked to this point. He needs to get A LOT better at EVERYTHING a TE is asked to do in his age 26 season.

Yeah, your morality division is interesting but not anything to do with the point. The point is.......Moulds personally wasted 2 years of his career(when his 1996 draft peers came out firing). Which were also 2 years of some of the most talented Bills football teams he played on. He's not a sympathetic character even if you don't care whatsoever about him being a deadbeat dad, choking women out or knowingly infecting them with STD's. He wasted more opportunity with his lack of focus on his craft early than he lost later by not having a great QB. Having guys like Flutie and Rojo and Bledsoe gave him guys who had limited field vision and were therefore willing to throw jump balls up to his always-covered ass 10 times per game in his prime. Literally 150 targets per season in his prime 2000-2004. He had a near perfect setup in Buffalo to be able to succeed despite his limitations getting open. After his surreal 1998 season(the greatest Bills WR season ever by far).......he put on 10 more pounds of muscle, which slowed him down considerably and he then struggled mightily to get open for the rest of his career despite there being was much less physicality allowed within routes, at the top of routes, and prior to the catch point than there is today. Much less. It's almost an unrecognizable game played in the secondary by comparison. Back then, receivers were hit at the line but then could not be grabbed, ridden around and water-skied all over the field like they are today without drawing a flag. Defense's instead dealt with them by gratuitous violence as the ball arrived and after the catch.

Yeah........how many times have we linked the clip with him arguing with fans and telling them he can do as he pleases because he's rich and they're not etc..? He and his bro are well known to be douches........and that kind of arrogance is not a negative in his line of business. But at this point, he sounds like a guy whose confidence is about crushed. While his friends/associates in media were talking about how he has a lotta' football left and just needs to have a big year and get back in the big money game next offseason.........he sounds like a guy who took the biggest deal he could get because he thinks it's probably the last one. Hard to blame him. Kicked to the curb by his team a couple weeks earlier, low-balled on the market, hasn't been healthy for 3 straight years now. Instead of asking your wife to analyze his personality ask her to get her rosary out and start saying prayers for his hopeful but unlikely return to form. 😂

Yeah there is little point in trading Kincaid for anything less than a straight-up day 2 pick at this point, IMO. As I said, the key season in TE development is typically year 3 so they just need to hope he got the message in his exit interview and the thinly veiled criticism they've made of him to the media. I'd love to draft a 2026 Knox replacement in April. A real full-capacity TE. But going into the season with just Knox.......the low level backup quality Morris........and a rookie.......is not a great spot to be in when they already don't really pose much of a matchup threat at WR.

Yeah it's so refreshing hearing a 29 year old player you just signed admit he could be washed.

Moulds didn't break out "from under" Andre Reed..........he was just a totally useless POS for the first two seasons. He couldn't get out from under ANY of the Bills WR's. Beating on women, evading child support.......he was too pre-occupied off the field to be of any use on it. He broke out in 1998 because he knew the Bills were ready to release him that training camp if he didn't prove his worth. And back then, with 1st round contract values vastly inflated versus the rank and file, that meant he was facing a HUGE pay cut if he hit the street as the busted bum he was to that point.

While the bar is low, Kincaid's rookie year actually sucked. He averaged a truly pathetic, RB-like 9 yards per catch with just 2 TD's. Which means he wasn't producing between the 20's OR the redzone. Knox is not a great TE either but his 127.8 passer rating when targeted in 21' was 30 points higher than Kincaid's best. AND Knox had 9 TD's that year. And if it seems like Kincaid just can't seem get past the sticks......it's because he can't. In the two prior years before Kincaid arrived a pass completed to Knox had a 58% likelihood to produce a first down. A completed pass to Kincaid has resulted in a first down just 44% of the time. Dalton Kincaid has truly sucked so far. Sometimes it takes until year 3 for a TE to breakout but banking on it would be a mistake.

The franchise tag for CB will be about $21M next offseason. And the Bills will likely have the space to exercise that or the lesser($18M) transition tag. So even if Benford really has a great year they can retain him for at least one more season and likely for less $ than the AAV would be on a new deal.

There is a town pronounced Camp-bell and school system in the southern tier that is pronounced Camp-bell Savona. Talbot is a school teacher on the other side of the same boondocks of full of small schools and inevitably would hear that name a lot even if he wasn't working in the school system there. https://wellsvillesun.com/blog/2024/12/10/olean-huskies-hold-on-to-defeat-wellsville-52-51-j-t-campbell-savona-win-b-r-fillmore-wellsville-volleyball-win/

Yep and Jake Kumerow was genetically Jake Pyle. Some dude named Kumerow stole Palmer Pyle's valor.

I know it was 28 pages ago.......but c'mon.😂 The Bosa's are some notoriously arrogant dudes. Not that anyone should give a sh!t that they are because it's ultimately a bloodsport played for our amusement but some Bills fans set the character bar so high and then when they find out they aren't perfect they turn on them. Violent game for violent people..........and he may turn out to be totally washed but he's always played the game violently. Needed trait for this defense.

They should have signed Campbell numerous times. 2020, 2023, 2024. I tend to think he refuses to consider Buffalo because it makes no sense that they haven't acquired him at some point.

To clarify, he was really bad last year though. 123.9 passer rating? Yikes. And I can't remember seeing a 33 pff rating for a CB before. Seems purdy washed.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DHJ9zHxyVRG/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet Not many moments left per Joey. On his last nanner'.

Nick Bosa the best DE in football? No. C'mon. That is clearly Myles Garrett. Garrett's consistent productivity is bordering on historically unique for the position at this point. This is why you and @Warriorspikes51 are the polar opposites.........he believes in the unlikely and you unnecessarily exaggerate impossibilities using your own brand of hyperbole. Like arguing contracts at face value and conflating the trade viability of a Jamar Chase and Josh Allen. Two clearly different categories of tradeability. Taking the contrary position about trade possibilities or stars changing teams is generally going to be right but nonetheless these things happen with plenty of frequency. Wasn't that long ago that Joey Bosa signed his big deal or when nobody thought that Davante Adams, arguably the best WR in the NFL at the time, would be traded by Green Bay. Adams is on his 4th team now.

Yeah but those were all very established players over multiple years prior. Edwards was a 3+ year starter in LA and Rapp started at safety on their SB winning team. Daryl Williams was literally an All-Pro tackle with Carolina. Feliciano isn't in that category, he signed a low end starters deal by 2019 standard so not really a flyer. Spain had been a full time starter for the 3 years prior(he just wasn't in demand for character reasons which became evident just months after the Bills re-signed him the following offseason, unfortunately). So Beane has hit on a few of his injury/character flyers. But none of those were in the never-was-prior category. Like a Tyrod or Lorenzo Alexander in 2015, for instance. Finding talent that flourishes where it hadn't/couldn't elsewhere. I don't expect Pro Bowl and NFL DPOY contender type performances like Tyrod and Lorax had but one starter would be a start at least. Forrest only started for a partial season prior so I would put him in that category of found talent in the event that he pans out.

Beane needs to bring in a few(or more) of these change-of-scenery types and hopefully one of them hits and they find a cheap starter or better. Free agency has been by far Beane's biggest weakness and this is one category where he's never really gotten much of anything. If memory serves correct, Ty Johnson is about the only cheap/talented but never-was-at-prior-stops types he has found in pro personnel in his prior 7 offseasons.

Yeah I remember when they wanted a big 1 tech to keep blockers off of their gigantic 6'5# 250# MLB when the league was nearing it's peak as a passing league............then as the league goes back to running the ball more they want two 3T tech types in the middle to allow their 220# MLB to be consumed by blockers and totally negate his elite blitzing ability. This new defense better be damn creative because this counter-intuitive stuff that then subsequently doesn't work is getting a bit old.

Likely just coincidental. I think Pegula has probably learned his lesson wrt dealing with agents. I doubt he had anything to do with that situation. Todd France being cozy with Pegula is how Marcell Dareus got that unprecedented, no-personal-conduct-clause megadeal from Terry. Man, that was a costly lesson for Terry.

Beane badly needs to nail these signings to show he has improved wrt pro personnel decisions. If this class is a bust.........I gotta' say it........it's a fireable offense. And I am far from his biggest critic. I thought he was getting wiser but this class looks like a big investment in a bunch of guys who all need to be better than they were last year to justify. It's hard to get *same* results but paying money that clearly anticipates BETTER production is not a formula for success in FA. He's laid out a lot of money for Palmer, Hoecht, Bosa and Ogunjobi. Probably, collectively, double the aav they were expected to get on the market and that impacts future caps even though some people can't grasp the idea because they are fooled by the "1 year deal" aspect. Cap money spent now is cap money that could have been rolled over and therefore it is less that can be spent later. That's why Beane's horrendous 2018 spending spree limited his flexibility in the early 2020's. It wasn't the covid year cap reduction that people tried to blame. Every team had to deal with that and contract values were depressed commensurately. It was horrendous signings like giving Star Lotuelei a 5 year $50M deal........and eventually paying out over $40M of that for 2 and a half seasons of mediocrity.......when Star was projected to get a 1 year $4M deal after a bad year in Carolina. That 2018 class was over $100M invested in garbage at a time when the cap was just $177M. Beane doesn't have a good track record with these type of deals that look like over-pays. I'm quite surprised he's put his neck out there like this for this group. So they'd better hit.🤞

I take the naive comment back. It's common sense that you lack.😂

@MJS is just very naive. GM's can talk all they want to agents at any time. And no agent is going to reveal that they were discussing some pending UFA's contract or availability whether it's in November or the days just prior to the free agency tampering window. Kim Miale of Roc Nation is Stanley's agent. Either Stanley is trying to sabotage Ravens rivals and going rogue on his agent figuring he doesn't need her anymore or the teams attempted to go around her. Perhaps she and Stanley had a disagreement about him taking so much less to stay with Baltimore. But teams OBVIOUSLY tamper with pending free agents all the time.

There are cap ramifications in subsequent years for all of these 1 year deals. Because unused cap space can be rolled over. If you don't spend it in 2025 you THEN have it to spend in 2026. So these signings DO impact future spending capability. Even if Beane isn't tacking on void years to these deals to fit them under the cap now(which he might be). The talk about there NOT being any impact on future cap situations reminds me of when Beane spent over $100M on trash in UFA in his first offseason. That spree is why the Bills couldn't get thru JA's first contract without being cap stressed.

Yeah he was due $7M this year. His deal with the Bills could be worth closer to $10M if he hits incentives. If that was his market the Steelers could have dealt him for a late pick or a pick swap at least.

This one is perplexing for $8M. That's a REALLY nice contract for a guy who needs to re-hab his image as a player. I was expecting a trade for Dalvin Tomlinson to be their DT move. They need a 1 tech and if he gets released he will probably cost more than his $3M base salary with the Browns. I presume the Browns floated out his release to stir up trade interest.