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My understanding is that teams have less control over editing of HK than you think. They have to claim that the information they want edited out creates a competitive disadvantage for them. And for the people who point to HK training camp edition teams not having great results that season.........up until this season teams that had made the playoffs the prior season had been exempt from HK for a long time. That had helped the Bills avoid it since they had been to the playoffs 7 of the last 8 seasons. So you weren't seeing SB contenders in the TC edition. That's the primary reason why the records weren't good.

I don't think Beane voluntarily put a bullseye on himself. The WGR thing was pretty much a steam of consciousness thing where he was kind of all over the place torn between talking sh!t about how smart he is(Josh Allen 2018 draft) and making excuses why he can't pay a WR and then dropping the "I signed Joshua Palmer" flex at the end. But yeah, the questions about the WR position will be addressed in Hard Knocks. It would be one thing if it were questions about the safety position that Beane was yelling at local media about...........but putting some extra focus on WR also gives HBO an excuse to keep more focus on QB1.

I think they just finally ran out of excuses and the NFL forced it on them. They've dodged the first 30 or so of these reality shows. The training camp ones, the in-season, off-season and the Netflix QB and WR docs. Maybe surprisingly exempting them from an international game this year was a concession? But either way I think they would likely have avoided it if the league gave them a choice.

They haven't been a top 2 team since 1993 but yeah they've won the division 5 years in a row and should have also won that 6 beginning in 2019 but just plain choked against Brady in NE back when Belichick still owned McD(0-6 vs BB at that point). I didn't say it or even quote it though so you'd have to ask @dcinmuncie exactly what they meant by "under the radar". The Jets were the betting favorite to win the AFC East last year but I never bought into that so they haven't been under the radar to me since their surprisingly dominant 2020.

I don't know if you are actually in the minority or not........but I think it shows that you probably just care too much about the outside perception of the team when there really is no rational reason to. But irrational things like worrying about outside perception of the team or whether officiating is unfairly biased against your team bonds fans to the product. It's an advanced suspension of disbelief.

I repeat, you are claiming the questions about the Bills WR corps "will likely not be covered" on Hard Knocks. Mmmkay. I suspect you will be backpedaling on that the same way you did when you started that thread last spring to tell us how nobody but you understood how great Khalil Shakir was going to be in 2024 and then walked it back in the fine print so that 900 yards would meet the criteria. 😂

So if a month of HBO following the Bills around in the preseason is equivalent to "breaking their legs"..........how did Mahomes survive being followed around by Netflix for an entire season and win the Super Bowl that year? It's irrational to have such anxiety over Hard Knocks for a team with a 9th year HC and GM and 8th year QB. They are the definition of a team that should be ready for this and yet still interesting enough to be worthwhile for average NFL fans to watch.

Get real. It's going to be the #1 storyline at the beginning of the show. Of course it should be talked about. That's how these things work. The Bills are normally a very low drama organization(outside of 2022 which was a drama sh!it storm). So Brandon Beane going on the offensive with local media and then going on a tour to yuck it up with out-of-town media about it while patting himself on the back about how great a job he's done with the WR corps is good drama to build on. Not a lot of GM's put their neck out like that. And then they open up with the Ravens, who literally exposed the Bills WR corps last fall and sent Beane scrambling to trade for Amari Cooper a month ahead of the deadline. The Ravens then later held Allen to a pathetic 127 yards passing in a home playoff game where they physically outplayed the Bills but lost because of a comedy of errors on their part..........I mean, the WR drama could come to a head right away. The potential entertainment value beginning this season story with Hard Knocks is enormous. By the end of that 1st game Beane could look like a genius or already be getting panned nationally if they struggle to throw the ball against Baltimore for a 3rd straight time. Everything about this season is setting up to be incredibly entertaining. Love them getting Hard Knocks this year, they have a seasoned leadership group and coaching staff and areready for it, IMO. And so glad they didn't know they were going to be on it until Beane added some spice to it with his "I signed Joshua Palmer" swagger.😂 This is going to be great.

Every subsequent failed attempt to get a WR1 in the draft are honest mistakes compared to passing on AJ Brown, DK Metcalf and Terry McCLaurin in the 2019 draft and choosing Cody Ford instead. They've been chasing ever since. Beane has struggled to find an elite pass rushing DE but at least in that instance he has the excuse of having to deal with the rigidity of McDermott's scheme. The amount of DE's who check all of the boxes to satisfy the wants of the McDefense are limited. If you insist on 6'6" 270 pound DE's with 34" arms you gotta' be willing to keep throwing numbers at it and take on day 3 risks like they did in Carolina with Greg Hardy. And perhaps McDermott hasn't been willing to allow Beane to go that far. But you aren't getting an Aidan Hutchinson with the 28th pick. Beane has no such excuse at WR. Those are unmitigated whiffs.

The Elam's were all knuckleheads at his age. Whether he was different than his dad/uncle was always the biggest question to me. He isn't. I expect he will get it together eventually. He has plenty of talent so he will get enough shots til it sticks. It's not a direct comparison but Rasul Douglas was terrible until he was suddenly really good.

Good because I am already sick of you moving the goal post with your bad arguments. You were mad that I said the trade-up for Kincaid hasn't proven worth it to this point.........and then you are saying Beane made a "ridiculous" evaluation plugging him in immediately and "expecting" results because in your eyes he was totally unprepared for the NFL. The fans didn't give him all that playing time and targets. The team did. I mean, pick a lane for fuxake.😂 You don't pick a non-premium position like TE in round 1 and then hope he starts playing like a first rounder in year 3 or 4.

Kincaid was thrown a lot of passes as a rookie but had very little impact. You often see teams force playing time on rookies they expected a lot of. But no receiver that begins at the LOS and had only a 9.2 yard per catch number nowadays, did anything remotely historic that season. That was sort of like the regular season Kelce had last year that people said was terrible and called him washed up. He has an age excuse. Kincaid was 25. That's PRIME age. He was supposed to be plug and play and has turned into at least a 3 year project. And the concept of a split-only TE like Kincaid really was as a rookie is fairly new so comparing his rookie season production to guys even 10 years ago is what is ridiculous. It's like comparing passing yardage and TD/INT ratio to 30-40 years ago. Edmunds was a failed trade up. He's an adequate first round pick but they also dealt a valuable second round pick to move up for him and he wasn't worth a second contract to the team. If you aren't deemed market worthy and they don't have an OBVIOUS replacement for you(which was the case when Edmunds left)....... then you probably weren't worth a first and second round pick. And we know why they didn't want to extend him. He lacks the instincts for the position that the far lesser size/speed athlete Bernard has in abundance. Yet Bernard got extended. EARLY. The Bills had Edmunds play out his 5 year deal and let a 24 year old veteran go for a reason. They even ate a big $11M+ cap hit in his option year to avoid extending him. As for noteworthy day 2 picks? What's your point? I never said he hasn't made some good day 2 picks. You are just making up a rebuttal to an argument that wasn't made. My point is simple........his itchy trade-up finger on day 1 and 2 has not yielded results they couldn't have expected by sticking and picking. I mean do you not think Fred Warner is better than Edmunds? Is LaPorta not as good as Kincaid? Metcalf/AJBrown/McLaurin all not better than frickin' Cody Ford? These were all worthwhile options at the time that they could have had without trade ups.

Yeah those Super Bowl Bills were no angels but their off field transgressions didn't prevent them from playing well(except for Super Bowls, of course). Kelly was accused of violence against women but was never charged like idiot Eric Moulds though. He'd probably get attempted murder for what he was accused of nowadays. Speaking of those lenient times, I have to laugh when I see the people with Cornelius Bennett handles. Most are or were totally unaware that he did actual time in WNY for sexual assault(forced anal sex, specifically).

Yep traded up for Allen and then Edmunds was the first of Beane's long string of, so far, failed Day 1 and 2 trade-ups.

It didn't. Moulds was just an idiot entering the NFL. After he was drafted reports came out that he was off a lot of teams draft boards. And though you would think it was for his propensity for assaulting women, it was actually because he was an idiot on the field. At the 3:19:30 mark you see Moulds catch a ball a couple feet from the sideline and stupidly stay in bounds and cost the Bills a timeout as the Bills were driving down 22-16 in the closing moments. He was unplayably stupid.

McConkey probably isn't a starting NFL player back in Reed's prime. It took defense's getting smaller, in response to running backs like Thurman Thomas destroying LB's in coverage, for the league to take the next step and go to smaller slot-only receivers. The slot receiver of today is the 3rd down back of Reed's era. Reed could play inside or out because he was a big, physical receiver even by todays standards and the outside CB's of his day tended to be smaller and less athletic than they are now. That's a whole "what happened to all the athletes who used to play RB" evolution story, but in short, Reed is not really an apples-apples comp.

I actually think Coleman's ceiling is high but not easily attainable. He has a lot of traits that remind me of Davante Adams. Adams has arguably ended up becoming the best WR to come out of that gifted 2014 class. Mike Evans is great and unbelievably consistent but he was never the best WR in the game like Adams was for several years in his prime. Once Adams caught up with Evans in 2017 he has been the better player and their career numbers are pretty close despite Adams struggling early due to lacking any one incredible natural trait to allow him to win matchups immediately as a pro. Coleman has that basketball level athleticism with size that you don't see a lot of in the NFL. That should allow him to develop the nuanced aspects of the position. He will have to work like Adams did(and prove as smart as Adams) to get that polished and that's probably not "likely" but he seems to be a good character guy so it's possible. Nothing I saw in 2024 has changed my mind despite his struggles. I was actually a bit surprised by the success he did have.

Ladd is a slot receiver. Shakir is the same height as and faster than Diggs too(if just using the 40 yard testing). We heard a lot of bullsh!t about how Shakir could play outside and Diggs comps from irrational fans. But Diggs had longer arms and 10" hands that allowed him do more on the boundary in his prime. Diggs aged out of the boundary a couple seasons ago but the Bills didn't have anyone else to put out there.

Ladd is a slot receiver. If they drafted him, then he and Shakir have to share snaps and Shakir had a hard enough time getting his snaps in an offense where they want big boundary WR out blocking. Whether Coleman makes it or not, McConkey's skillset would have been redundant so they'd still be seeking boundary help. I do think Coleman would have had himself a much better season catching the dink and dunk stuff from the slot like McConkey got. The average depth of target disparity was enormous(9.9 to 15.2). It's reminiscent of the tantrums people threw over passing on Creed Humphrey. They owed Mitch Morse a lot of money, he was solid, he was a captain and since centers in the NFL spend a ton of their pass blocking snaps blocking air or just being a help guy.........what you don't want is to pay the top of the market for a non premium position. That's what the Chiefs are doing now. Give me Morse and McGovern over that stretch and I'm good. Slot WR is a non-premium position.

I think the tagline for the site for many years contained something "since 1998". I came over from HyperBills the Rochester D&C site. I think it shut down and TBD quickly assumed the space. But @SDS knows the details.

Yes he took a knee to the head from Allen on the Bills first offensive series. They were in disarray in the secondary the rest of the game.

They are questioning if he's a bust because he had a HORRIFIC playoffs. He dropped uncontested passes and contested passes. Even the one nice play he was credited with against Denver was a MMMMMMDRRRop! https://www.buffalobills.com/video/dalton-kincaid-s-35-yard-diving-grab-advances-bills-into-broncos-territory-bills-vs-broncos When you are horrible in big games like that people are going to remember. If he plays well in the playoffs nobody is referencing his regular season stats. They are singing his praises like Gabe Davis after 13 seconds.

Easing the sticker shock is one way to frame it. Re-setting the floor at the most opportune time is how I would put it. Those who bought PSL's were promised modest increases in price from year to year in the new stadium (I believe 2%). That was part of the pitch. Whether they honor that or not remains to be seen, but since the promise was so recent, they kinda' gotta' get that price-hike up NOW. Also thins out the riff-raff so many on TSW complain about😉.......

Yeah Bills fans lament the injuries the Bills have had in Chiefs games but the Bills have still lost some playoff games where the opponent had areas that were decimated by injury. Secondary for the Chiefs in that game was one of them. That was maybe the only time they've really been able to take advantage of such a weakness in one of their playoff defeats.

I appreciate that you are showing data but what you should notice is that while the time to throw, sacks and overall QB hits are down.........the scrambles per dropback are higher than 2020 or even 2021. That scramble figure should be much less now than it was back then. He's a much smarter QB. He's seeing the field and getting the ball out quicker. And yet he suffered his first two concussions since 2019 and took a number of other hits in the same area of the field that would rank among the more violent of his career in 2024. I attribute that to the failure of the receiving corps to create enough big plays on schedule. While the TD dive against SF was Allen's most memorable play of the year, the rest of them were mostly throws made along the sideline. The TD to Shakir in Baltimore, the subsequent KO in Baltimore on the failed trick play, the KO in Houston the bombs(and huge hits taken) in LA and Detroit. The last offensive play of the season was literally Allen scrambling right and unleashing an arm punt that Kincaid dropped.